whats your experience with cons?

You can enjoy them solo but you need to go in with the mindset you're going to spend money on merch without worrying too much. I have never been to one with a group though sadly.

If i was a furry or brony i'd go to a con, but anime cons are just full of normie shit and normies. although I'd go to komiket because you can buy good porn.

>>3
im a brony and am going to my first con soon. are there any good anime cons in the west? what about comic conventions? comic con isnt really about comics at all for some reason.

>>2
i dont know anyone irl whos into ponies :/

You have conventions about denpa topics? The only ones here in Eastslovacian Commonwealth are organized at friends home.

anime cons are better with friends for sure, but id go to one in a bigger city because some of them get good japanese guests, and some have a good party culture.

>>7

party culture

:/

Cons are cancer and so is anyone who's ever been to one.

>>9
why?

>>10
Isn't it obvious? For one, the atmosphere of conventions is obnoxious by any reasonable person's standard. Crowds, loud noises, different smells, the sight of other people: all commonplace at conventions. Literal AIDS for your senses. And for what? Pointless, unprofessional "panels"? Vomit inducing 3dpd garbage like cosplay or e-celebrities? Unbridled vanity, stupidity, and materialism on full and open display? None of this is desirable. None of it is worthwhile. Most of it is, in fact, horrifying.

And that's not even breaching the fact that conventions are, of course, typically attended by people with a proclivity for in-person social interaction (that's why they're gathering after all). These people are far more likely than their digital-comfortable counterparts to understand the media or art in which they indulge as a means towards participation in a social circle or "community." Speaking personally, I do not want or intend to interact with those who take a primarily "meta" interest in their hobbies. For a discussion of an artwork (or for a community based around an artwork) to be worthwhile, the work itself should retain primacy at all times. Once you've deviated from that, you're already lost. social elements should therefore be limited to the extent possible. Cons spotlight sociality and are a step in the wrong direction.

Keep in mind I'm basically referring to media conventions with a "nerd" bent (anime, vidya, etc.) according to the American model, a.k.a. literal cancertastic trash. Of course there are other convention cultures that are slightly better, like the Japanese sokubaikai culture, but even these come with their own huge share of issues.

>>11
ok dont meet japanese mangaka, anime staff, and video game producers then. ill enjoy hanging out with daisuke ishiwatari and toshio maeda.

>>11
maybe youre right denpanon. i just want to try out going to a con to see if theyre for me.

>>11
i was getting all excited for the con but i just feel empty now.

>>14 dont let the words of someone who has succumbed to despair convince you to not take a chance to live life. i have been like poster 11 before and conventions helped me recover into a happy social person. i found people like us who were recovering from despair and worked on growing together into more effective people.

trying wont hurt, poster 11 is just projecting their despair onto you and isnt even right about the stuff hes saying.

i have 15 years of convention experience, so who are you going to trust? someone who wants everyone to be as miserable as him? you deserve better.

>>12
I find the idea that you are "meeting" the mangaka &c. ridiculous; it's performative, a performance, a play (at the level of bourgeois theatre). The mangaka at the convention is reduced to a social signifier, an open-ended signifier to be consumed without otherness (the final object of consumer culture is to always reduce everything to the same same-ness, i.e -> liberal universality); in fact, you'd do a better job of "meeting" a mangaka if you were to do a drive-by on them, because at least in this scenario you escape the constraints of exchange.

The enjoyment (in terms of _joy_ not entertainement) of a author's work, is a 10^6 better intercourse, than any convention (enjoyment in-as-much as one is a dividual projecting him-self into de liberal new-man aka individual).

>>11
The world is material, ergo, everything is materiality. Please take your fascism to another discursive Universe. Everything is intercourse, everything is meta-interest, nothing is enjoyed in it-self, but rather for something else, the isolation of the work into itself is correct in-as-much as there is no outside of the text, but incorrect in-as-much as our participation in text must be limited by text, this is to say, we must not allow how participation be limited by the given of text -- there must always be a giving, and therefore, the outside of the text penetrating violently (materially, and obscenely) into the the text "it-self".

De-gozai-masu.

Slide thread

im back from the con now i dont know

this is the type of normie degeneracy they're letting in to anime cons now: https://x.com/FearedBuck/status/1817029757470466132

>>19
normies dont go to pony cons :)

>>19
you dont have the right to call anything degenerate if you like anime.

I have only gone to one when I was maybe 12. It was sort of fun I suppose. It sort of just turned me off watching anime because I was able to see all of these so called "anime fans" gathered in one spot. Suffice to say I did not want to be grouped in with them. It is also pretty much just a massive ploy to get you to spend lots of money on a bunch of overpriced useless shit you do not actually need.

>>21
i was just using degenerate as a buzzword. It's not that I dont like it because they're doing sex things (anime is largely a sex thing), I don't like it because they're doing something popular and cool. The "daggering" dance is a broadly popular club culture which serves as a kind of mating ritual. In other words, it's a celebration of 3d relationships which I don't think belongs to the otaku world.

>>23
biofuel

>>22
I mean yeah, you don't need anime either. I do agree though that if you are not there go buy anime merch, and to spend ridiculous amounts of money then there is no point going to a convention.

>>16
I don't understand, do you expect the mangaka to give you a blowjob and a privaye meeting? I like to see the creators in the flesh and to hear them speak. Isn't that enough?

>>11
Cosplay is kind of 2.5DPD cancer but it's a key aspect of otaku culture... I hate it but maybe the deluded cosplayer fans are onto something.

Convention panels are useless I agree. Nothing which is said in them couldn't be said better in a youtube video essay.

Ok so I do agree that cons have issues but merely pointing out the problems is not enough. What would, in your view, be the perfect convention? What kind of events should there be at a convention for it to be good? Were there ever any good cons to follow as an example? Daicon maybe?

Everyone in this thread tell us about your ideal convention?

i just dont want normies at cons.

>>25
I'd imagine a ideal convention being small, at most 5 conners (manga artists, staff). The conventions would be more of a casual space to hang out and talk with like minded people, than what we have now. There would be showcases and sneak peeks.