trying to stop being wasteful is such a weird mental effort that rarely rewards, but being wasteful with money or water or time (by spending it doing something you like) somehow always has positive ramifications, a well trained person is usually a wasteful person, just spitting ideas here

being prudent takes effort and im lazy

"well trained"? in what way? do you mean "successful person" because that is always going to be qualified with "under capital" and really is more of an indictment of the prominent system rather than of the anything else.

it's stressful knowing how much one wastes true. even the best humanly viable prudence is monumentally wasteful on a plank scale. thank modoka that the universe has found so many ways to make use of that waste.

being well trained in anything requires one to put time in it right

Using time to become good at it is not “wasting time”
That’s asinine

>>1
based and bataille pilled

>>4 where do you think the time goes you put in, its definitely not safely stored in a Schrödinger's cat-box where the cat is either a positive outcome or a negative outcome and you can only know if you open the box afterwards

>>6
How do you define waste?
Being actively wasteful would be like always cooking twice as much food and throwing half away. It’s not a waste if you gave the excess to a neighbor or homeless person. How does doing that lead to peace of mind?
Spending time on leisure isn’t a waste. Using time to gain skills isn’t a waste, even if nothing comes from it. Others may call it a waste if there is no profit, but that’s capitalist brain rot.
It’s true that sometimes unique insights are found in expected ways and places by people who are autisticly doing what seems to be nonsense. But why categorize what they are doing as waste in the first place?

>>7 tbh my point was actually about me personally being too mindful of waist and over-correcting, trying not waist too much of literally anything, but this made me unhappy so I realized that waste if you can get something positive out of it like being a generous spender or cleaning your house often with allot of water or taking a nice bath often or selfishly spending your time locking yourself up trying to improve yourself are all actually very positive things and not wasteful at all by being what I used to consider "wasteful". so yes you and me agree completely

one can be a efficient person but since we are surrounded by easy chemicals it's kinda hard for we the dumb

>>9 being efficient does not get rewarded unfortunately, it doesnt get noticed, what ruly matters is sweet sweet conformity

was thinking the same thing today when i decided against picking up yet another shopping bag at the supermarket, walked home looking like a buffoon, with a milk carton hooked around two fingers and a bag of salad pinched between.

wastefulness is instant gratification with usually quite a delayed consequence, unless you managed to waste something that you immediately needed
sometimes, the consequences can be so delayed (or minor) that they are basically irrelevant to you

but also, >>6 has it right: a lot of things that seem wasteful aren't
the situation in >>11 is pretty familiar and probably would have been best solved by getting a reusable bag but that might have still seemed like a waste even compared to a thin plastic bag if you didn't expect to need to use it again
personally, I've ended up just taking the bags if I'm carrying stuff