i think i am conventionally attractive but i am pretty sexually inactive, i just dont like approaching people, there are some people who id like to approach, on a more personal level, but i hate the idea of doing anything casual. for my whole life ive been lead to believe that my beauty is wasted on me just because "i ont really use it" and lately ive been feeling pretty guilty abt that

In elementary and middle school I was approached by girls but I rejected them all because we had nothing in common. Now I'm a khhv ghost. You'll get over it.

I was once on a date with a person who made the argument that beauty is morally virtuous (nothing became of that for a variety of reasons, but that line stuck with me). Humans generally like seeing pretty things in the world and so to take care of one's appearance is a nice thing to do in the same way that public art is. What they're saying is that they would exploit that radiance to more selfish aims, and if you don't desire those, then nothing is lost. In fact they should be thanking you since, if one stoops to that loser sexual-marketplace-level of analysis, you're improving their odds by not participating. Doing a public service across two separate axes. I'd hardly call that a waste

no imo. i think it'd be more of a waste to date (if you don't wanna) just bc you're attractive. you don't need to feel guilt over not wanting to be in a relationship when you're not ready for one.

>>3

beauty is morally virtuous

that's just a zoomer tiktok meme. next to no one thought that 10 years ago.

>>5
I might be missing something, why would I care if anyone thought such a thing ten years ago? (also by way of halo effects they certainly *implicitly* did, but I guess that's a different discussion)

tbh i havent done my homework on aesthetics as a part of philosophy, but wwhat does "beauty is morally virtuous" actually mean.

Women are incredibly boring. You will get over it. Have you considered going out with ugly men? They're some of the most interesting people around.

>>8 everyone knows they're boring the point they are making is that they are also awful

>>6
Because it's indicative of how much emerging technologies have changed people's perception of the world and their ideology.

>>7
my understanding is it is some people rediscovering that the greeks viewed beauty as a signifier of being virtuous. the only reason someone would be ugly is pissing off some god.
this idea has been around a long time, and is an unspoken assumption in many religious beliefs as it is embedded deep in the human psyche re:halo effect as 6 mentions. altho i wonder if it is cultural or biological in origin, but there's no way to test that.

The problem is that there are indeed some "unvirtuous" acts which do make someone uglier - lack of cleanliness, sloth, gluttony, long term drug use/smoking, etc. these things do make someone uglier in the traditional sense.
but of course lying doesn't actually make your nose grow longer, and thanks to the halo effect attractive people are considered more trustworthy so "beautiful people" have an easier time being manipulative, (Ted Bundy wouldn't have been as successful if he wasn't attractive)

but maybe stuff like lying not making someone physically less attractive is actually proof it is morally virtuous to lie?

>>11

being stinky is evil

fuck off normalfag

>>13
>>12
imagine being able to consider an idea without believing it. beauty is a social construct in the first place so using the normiefag definition is the only reasonable position for talking about this. anyway, murder is morally correct.

>>11
For awhile it seemed like, as a culture, we moved past ideas like this. Then, all of a sudden, they experienced a massive resurgence in popularity and it became socially acceptable among young people to proudly tout their belief in these ideas. Despite them being arguably antiquated and running contrary to the egalitarian ideals that (ostensibly) we hold in (((western))) society. If you really believe that moral value is rooted in appearance rather than one's actions towards others: it isn't long before you start to believe in eugenics. Which geneticists on the whole have largely debunked.