>>2
Minimal programs that are extendible. We do not live in the 60s, we have have the computing power to have to be able to edit the code. That can be accomplished by having non-critical programs not be compiled. Emacs can be fully changed, modified and altered without altering the source code of it, only utilizing an actual programming language it is written in. Okay Emacs is not 100% changeable, some features, namely the buffer, are written using C. Lem would be a better answer to that, as it is written entirely in Common Lisp.

There are a few problems with FOSSism. 1. Their vague idea of freedom 2. Nobody can completely audit anything but the simplest programs 3. Hardware is not FOSS which makes FOSS software rather futile. 4. Obsession with protecting privacy, again very vague.

>>2

the programs that actually require learning and effort to git gud, are usually superior

I would be more convinced if those who take this position were anti-productivity. Whereby, Windows/Mac apps and their clones could be dismissed as creating ease and convenience for the sake of productivity, of milking the empty drones that pass as humans of every ounce of labor instead of expanding the mind and opening the door for creativity. However, in fact they are just as obsessed with productivity.

>>4
The elitism of FOSSfags is well documented. I don't need to point out that they are sneering elitists because everyone knows this.

>>5

There is this idea that computer's were intended to benefit normans that i just don't think tracks,

Computers were originally military hardware meant to make the nuclear holocaust as destructive as possible and crack codes. The hobbyists of the 70s wanted to free the computer from this and make it something that would benefit everyone but this also opened the door to its exploitation as a consumer good. In a way, Stallman wanted to preserve this earlier idea of computing as a social benefit and communal good. The snobby elitist FOSSfags who hate on normals (despite being the most milk toast normal boring people) do not seem to understand this. Instead of benefiting society, they often take this idea that public are stupid, that they possess special knowledge that makes them superior, and a ton of stuff they make is really to benefit their own elitist group. You talk of as if people posting nonsense video clips is something FOSSfags don't do these things also and that this behavior is simply the outcome of handing people computers when they have been more or less trained and encouraged to behave this way thanks to a mix of societal and technological factors.

It seems that FOSSfags have more or less abandoned any social values and their whole movement is now just an aesthetic subculture revolving around themselves.