do you think anime/manga will stop being trendy soon? do you want this to happen?

hate to break it to you. it's not even a third as bad as it will be, and once it is "done" the baseline will be worse than it is now.
best case scenario it will be as "uncool" as marvel is now when it's all over. at least in the next 60 years assume no total society collapse events.

all domains of human creativity approach saturation. everywhere (films, music, software, anime, science) it becomes ever harder to invent, discover or create something new, individual, harder to impress or surprise customers. I predict that in the future rates of mental disorders will skyrocket.

i so badly want anime to be weird again...

I think we're on the tail end of the anime bubble for sure, but I do think it will continue to be somewhat popular, so it won't go back to how it was before. By that I mean, every few seasons there will probably be a show that breaks through into the mainstream.

>>1

do you want this to happen?

I'm not sure what we have to gain from anime not being trendy. What I'm interested in is more doujin attempts at anime production, though there are many hurdles in the way.

anime is still weird and gay but now being weird and gay is mainstream

>>7
t. https://files.catbox.moe/n7dpca.jpg

>>8
Cobain is alive?

>>9
lmao that's just dasha, the face of Sailor Socialism, conservative podcaster

anime and manga will be cool forever. it will take over the entire world

Idrk why N0 thinks anime/watchers will be maligned. Like basically everyone has seen a little bit of anime now, it's just going to get old and boring and his idea of an otaku terrorist or w/e tarnishing anime's name seems impossible nowadays. If 9/11 hapaned for the first time tommorow or I mean I guess in 225 days, there would be maybe like a single annual memorial but that's it. Like 1000s of ppl get raped and killed now and it doesn't affect anything.

And yes I want anime to become untrendy because I think noobs r gay.

>>12
zoomers don't grow watching anime like dbz, instead they just see clips on tiktok. of course certain people can get away with murder, but that doesn't apply to otaku.

>>14
gen alpha is being raised by people who rewatch shit like fullmetal alchemist, inuyasha, naruto, dbz, etc.
maybe zoomers are lost, but alpha will carry the torch.

>>15
gen alpha is being raised by tiktok and instagram on their phones

>>13
I feel like even tiktok level exposure to anime prevents hard-core animaniacs from seeming like a super distinct group to which an atrocity could be attributed. Otakudom isnt independent enough to be truely scapdgoated. By now, otaku are on the level of like horror movie fans, where like while they're a distinct sub category of people, the boundary doesn't seem like a hard or significant line to normiez. The otaku killer in Japan was different because Otaku have genuinely distinct social circles there, there are actual otaku institutions which separate otaku from the public. Those don't exist here so if some weeb killed a bunch of ppl, anime would at most be brought up in like jokes mocking him.

oops meant to reply to >>14

these identities you are describing dont really exist, there's no cool anime watcher or lame anime watcher or what tf is even obscure weird anime, my local library had allot of anime obscure and even creepy stuff as way back as 2009 and shounen manga since 2005, so what are we even talking about?

>>14
>>15
Don't forget that some of us, including N0 himself, are otaku zoomers. We take notice of the most obnoxious examples of tiktok and twitter pseudo-otaku, but Denpa-chan itself is proof that all is not lost. We should focus on cultivating spaces like this instead of wasting time worrying about what tiktok users are doing.

>>19
I don't rlly think this thread is abt distinct identities as much as just like the gen reaction to anime/viewers. Like ppl would absolutely act differently if u picked up an anime vs a classic or like a textbook or w/e at ur library. Rn anime is cool enough that ppl will like joyfully start conversations w/u abt it just because they saw u w/anime stuff. This is obv temporary and this thread is abt whether it will become mundane or old and cringe or like super maligned.

Like my library has lolita and de sade and writers as controversial as dfw, and I'm obv going to get a different reaction to that than like steinbeck.

AXTUALLY LOL, the thread was abt if it will become u trendy soon but I think we all take that as a given.

how can anime and manga become trendy today when it was trendy 20 years ago the moment dvds and ps2 existed it was over 80% of ps2 games were in the anime artstyle

>>24
SORRY TYPO. I meant untrendy.

also cringy teenagers will always be cringy about anything if its dark litterature or bands or fashion, who cares if its animes tirn to be a cringy teen thing

who cares if anime is trendy when the fact is it will always be trendy in japan and Brazil baby #1 hell yeah

also has any of you ever asked yourself why you see cringy anime poeple on your feed everyday, maybe its because you keep watching it and keep liking it, you poeple are like the losers that hate pornstars but keep jackin it to them as if you cant control your own fucking eyballs stupid retarded motherfuckers kill yourself stop talking about anime cringe forever

>>28
I don't see cringe anime people in my feed. I just know that they're lurking in every MAL review, thread, and community I avoid. I do see them walking down the street though. With their t-shirts which capture some image from a show while missing its vibe. I can feel the havoc they've wrought oh every store or con or artist or w/e which totally caters to them. But this thread isn't about cringe anime people, they were only brought up once by 26 to say there was no reason to care about them. It's about the future of anime's place in culture.

>>24
it was a niche thing for dorks though.

>>30 no it wasn't there were a million books stores and gale stores and everyone loved like the internet but physical

>>30
people constantly underappreciate how powerful Haruhi was.

>>22
lolita et al can get away with it because they are defended by intelligentsia as high art. Your average eroge is too pure and non-hypocritical to get the same leeway.
>>32
Was Haruhi really that good tho? I feel like it's forgotten partly because it was never that good. I have read about five Haruhi novels and I mean it's just some okay sci-fi stuff. I have never read a Haruhi review which properly explained what was so good about Haruhi.

>>33
how good it is is not really relevant to the discussion of how powerful it was. by today's standard it's not amazing, definitely good tho.
without haruhi paving the way there would not be k-on, monogatari series, the light novel boom, etc.
it was a phenomenon that took off like crazy thanks to the OP first and foremost. but episode 0 was also kinda mindblowing at the time, and the school faire/concert episode cemented it as a masterpiece of animation. thanks to 3d and digital processing effects these days of course watching episode 0 would be little more than a novelty, and there have been equally good concert scenes since them. But don't forget there are no other shows before or since that could have the balls to do what they did with endless 8 and still have a a great selling movie after.

>>34
(not the guy you were replying to) Haruhi was very important, I'd call it a full on cultural phenomenon both in japan and the west. However, it would be more accurate to characterize it as an inflection point where multiple currents that had been brewing in the underground broke through to the mainstream. I would say that haruhi's success was in taking aspects that had been popular from both light novels and galge and being in the right place at the right time. In no aspect was haruhi the first to do it. It wasn't the first anime centered around a group of highschoolers and cute girls. It wasn't the first popular light novel series (boogiepop dates back to 1998). It wasn't even the first popular light novel anime adaptation by kyoto animations (full metal panic fumoffu came out 3 years earlier). The time loop plotline is a direct consequence of the sorts of stories visual novels are driven towards by their format. Haruhi's powers are pretty clearly inspired by Sakura's route in Da Capo. The hare hare yukai and it's dance is just the sort of thing idols had been doing for decades. I could go on, but the special thing wasn't anything it did being new, it was putting everything into a well produced package and coming out at the right time.

>>35
I see. In that case the reason why Haruhi is no longer "powerful," is because it doesn't up well on its own, it was just an inflection point. When old guys recommend Haruhi to younger people and they watch it, they find it wanting, because it was the stuff around the show which they missed and can't be captured again. Also, I wonder how much of this was organic and how much of this was planned by Kyo ani or whoever was in charge of marketing.