I feel like I can't be genuine anywhere except online. In meatspace people will often twist or use your words against you, or otherwise be offended by your sincere thoughts, so that's why we wear many masks, both in public and at home within our family. People, especially acquaintances or friends, will often say "tell me the truth", but once you tell them your truth, they might become offended! You might think that they are in the wrong in some issue, but God forbid you tell them your variant of the truth, even when they ask you for it. When they say "tell me the truth", they are talking about their truth, not yours or mine.

In these conditions, can you even manage to be 100% truthful with your words in real life, or is such a thing possible only within the confines of the World Wide Web? Socialization in meatspace seems to be worse in every regard: you can't be truthful, you can't engage in meaningful discussion (pointless small talk), you cannot create meaningful connections with others. If that's so, then why do a lot of people on the web still chase real life interactions/socialization?

Have you managed to find genuine connections in the real world? What do you do in order to deal with people IRL? And what advice do you have for someone like me?

Just give up on life and relationships
https://n0thanky0u.neocities.org/giveuponlife/

>>2
clearly n0thanky0u did not do that. he's had a gf for years

you have to get really lucky in order to find people who you can be honest with. if you haven't found them yet, you either keep looking, which might never reward you, and don't ask me where you should look because i don't know either, i avoid strangers like they're feral animals, or you give up and make peace with being alone. i've found exactly three individuals, two being friends and one being family, in my vicinity with whom i feel i can express my true thoughts and feelings, and unfortunately i only get to see them on rare occasions (one of them i haven't seen in over two years, i really miss him). while i generally avoid speaking, i try to always be honest when i do speak, even with people who will definitely hate me for it, but i can afford to do that because i know what to do if they become confrontational over it. i try not to antagonize others but i'm not gonna act like someone i'm not just to please strangers, and i know that humans were made different from one another in such meaningless ways so that conflict would inevitably arise among them to serve as entertainment for whatever invisible force is pulling the strings. i wish you the best luck in finding someone you can trust.

>>4
the demiurge?

Most people on the web don't want uncushioned sincerity either. Its just easier to sift through large crowds of people here to find the ones who do. It's not the common mode because full sincerity requires a lot of trust buy-in since it's very easy to mislead with selective fully true statements. maintaining a genuine overall "direction" while being strategically misleading about most things you say, is safer because the things which come up are weirdly sampled and beget a very wrong, very spikey generalisation in the mind of the listener. So my personal opinion is that your style of speech is just sort of bad and places far too high trust demands on strangers, but if you select for the right crowd of weirdos you will find others who get along great with this the same way one does on online. Almost trivially. The people one meets online do have meatspace analogues after all. This requires some capacity to deal with lots of rejection and frontload a large amount of probably pretty uncomfortable interactions. A university debate-club or other autism hotspots are probably a good starting point. As for why: Most brains like the sensation of touch, and seeing faces and basking in physical presence. It's nice to be soft, warm critters together. Anyway, good luck

sincerity is overrated but so is politeness. Orwell Orwell Orwell Orwell Orwell ORwell Orwell ORwell ORwell Orwell Orwell Orwell OrEwlll P

it's easy to smile and wave, to tell them one thing to their face, it's hard to tell the truth. yeah, it is all my fault, but how could i have known that what people call low self-esteem is really just seeing yourself the way other people see you?

a friend has a friend, everyone wants an excuse to get out of the house, pick a place and time, treat eachother like siblings

Im getting pretty jaded with socializing in general be it online or IRL. I have found that there seems to be little difference in how people really act in both spheres. Theres always a level of detachment and unwillingness to understand one another. I used to think it was exclusively an irl thing. But the more interactions i have online the more it just feels like people act even more detached online in most spaces. Sure people are more willing to speak their mind but that doesnt mean you be able to be closer with them or really get to know them for who they are. It feels kind of impossible to find a place online these days where you can find people who are open and not just putting on a mask of constant silly irony. Really just reminds me of irl interaction a lot now.

honestly I have reached the point I no longer desire any close connections. I am perfectly fine on my own, and I can't understand why anyone would chase companionship except because they have been affected by propaganda promoting it as something desirable. Free yourself from your bonds. In history companionship was simply something which took place out of material necessity and so it was idealised simply because it was (materially) necessary and therefore inevitable, just like the samurai idealised death as something desirable, a sort of reverse sour grapes story. If you are in a financial situation where you can be on your own then rejoice.