It really seems like having a committed relationship with just one person has become a pipe dream. Anything goes now. Sex with strangers, ho0k up apps, p0rn addiction etc. Its like there are no clear moral standards or guidance to follow now. In a world where relationships are so fleeting and everyone's obsessed with self-fulfillment is there really any point? Relationships seem like more headache then their worth.

I think it's worth it with the right person. Just look at n0 and Dotesmite. Those two have been together now for what? Like four years? I don't see any sign of that train stopping.

>>2
Do u know more than we know cus their situation could be anything has there ever been an update in forever?

>>3
there's not really anything to know, I still make cameos in n0s videos (crossover episode)

>>1
you two supposed to marry, build house, raise crops, care for offsprings.
If you won't do it & if your offsprings won't fit in to economy, your government will import workers from Chad.

everyone's obsessed with self-fulfillment

date trad, amish, jew, muslim, christian, hindu, mormon.
don't marry buddhist, cuz they don't have a cult of family.

tfw now you see & recognize the failure of generational/educational narrative

>>2
I'm scared I'll never find the right person or they don't exist. People seem inherently untrustworthy. You look at all the relationship problems people have and its scary and depressing. People will ditch you or betray you. I don't want to use an app but how do you know other people aren't two timing you?

>>5
Take your meds.

It is

why do people get dogs if they know they're gonna die eventually? at least with a person there's a chance they'll outlive you. even with people who pained me deeply when they left, leaving me feeling stupid and helpless, i can't say i regret having grown close to them (even if i can say a lot of other bitter things). i'm dealing with a lot of grief from this kind of thing right now but i'm still thinking to myself 'at least we had the times we did.' plenty of fish in the sea and shit

>>8
I guess the real question is is being in a relationship worth the cost? People (most people anyway) don’t have sex with dogs or marry them. Dogs are also pretty loyal to their owners and are generally predictable. Your not gonna get a text from your dog suddenly telling you it thinks it’s a lesbian and is gonna dump your for another women overnight. I keep birds and those things can live decades. Parrots will out live you which is why I never bought one. Because imagine how lonely it would feel when you die before it does.

It really depends on what you think suits you better, but thinking that either a social life or an isolated life will be painless is delusional. Both will bring plenty of pain with it, no matter your choice, it's only a matter of preference for a particular kind of pain. That being said, you have the best chances for growing personally if you interact with other people, just sitting at home and playing video games all day will make you emotionally stunted eventually.

>>8
The point is not the ending but the time you spent together while they were still there.

>>10
That being said, interacting with other people naively will stunt emotionally as well, you certainly do not needed for it to be pointed out to you the millions of sociable people that are, nonetheless, alienated from any sensitivity no matter how dull.
Also the main drive in human desire is not escape from pain; nor it is conditioned by pain. Pain only acts as unit of exchange inside disciplinary systems, but not only our modern social systems work on the level of control, spectacle, and soft-power, rather than hard-discipline; but that the necessary revolutionary subjectivities that have to be brought forth in order to truly emancipate the NEET/schizoid/antisocial subject from its position of subjugation.

Any compromise with the sociable-bunch is just surrendering yourself to the normie power-control-mechanisms and accepting your place in society as a bottom-feeder and a foot-stool. "Yes, I'll play my role in your farce, I'll surrender myself willingly to it, it is the best for me after all, I wouldn't like to be a basement dwelling neckbeard after all" -- they beat us down with semantic tricks and ideology.

Also it sickens me to the core to see this endless dynamic and though terminating cliché of "personal growth" being constantly turned as a weapon towards this great forming underclass of the hikikomori/laying-down-person -- it is always the people who know the least about "personhood" and "growth" that throw it around without a care in the world.

>>12
*but that the necessary revolutionary subjectivities [...] cannot be disciplinary themselves or rely on the concept of pain as an explanatory principle

>>12
The NEET/schizoid/antisocial subject cannot be emancipated from subjugation (by who??) because the regulatory mechanisms of society are what create the NEET to begin with. If they disappear, so does the NEET.

normies

There is no difference between most users or this site and so called normies. Its just a snob insult so imageboarders can feel good about themselves. Basement dwelling NEETs emancipated themselves from work so they could be slaves to themselves and prisoners of fear.

The NEET/schizoid/antisocial subject cannot be emancipated from subjugation (by who??) because the regulatory mechanisms of society are what create the NEET to begin with. If they disappear, so does the NEET.

That is precisely the point. The problem is where to go from this realization onwards.

There is no difference between most users or this site and so called normies.

To this I have to use a very traditional concept -- that which is the same is indistinguishable -- I think that we can in fact very clearly see that there is a difference (a distinction) between this thing I named the "schizoid" subject and the "normie" subject.

I admit I was hasty/overly-emotional in calling them a "underclass" (I doubt their class character); but I do think there is a difference between both subjectivities. I think the difference is the most easily seen in the way this two conceptual "groupings" interface with themselves and society; this is why this is made the main point of contention when someone talks about "NEETDOM"; that is indeed the main point, this extreme rejection of many basic social instincts (learned or otherwise).

There is, I think, something important/interesting, even if it only exists in the purely critical/negative (and therefore useless) sense in this "NEET/schizoid/antisocial" interface, even though I can't quite put my finger on it. I got very angry with >>10 because it introduced precisely the line of discourse that completely denies this subjectivity as mere abnormality -- and therefore as something unimportant that merely exists as a "shadow" to the prevalent majoritarian (normie) existence.

When I think of NEET it makes me think about this phenomenon in anthropology where groups of people voluntarily withdraw from "modern life." Usually, this is because of a mix of discrimination and destruction of their traditional ways of life. Some have interpreted it as resistance to global capitalism. There's also the long tradition of the hermit in many faiths. Moses, Buddha, and Muhammad spent a long time alone where they dropped out of society. Those who isolate and fixate on an interest were once appreciated and periods of isolation and silence were seen as good for the soul. But even in these stories people have relationships but with non-human entities like animals or deities.

Today, being quiet and asocial is seen as something that makes you dangerous to others. Even productive employees who are 'too quiet' are suspected of things.

How can you trust anyone these days? You never know what people are doing behind your back or on the internet. I read horror stories online or watch stuff and it’s about dumb break ups or being cheated on or something bad and I think “fuck that shit, I’m not gonna have a relationship with anyone”

its kind of a chicken and egg scenario, is our need to be NEETS something that is hardcoded in the brain or is it simply a reaction to how we exist in societies, therefore showing that soceties are problematic

relationships are never "pointless" but the second you think about whether they are or not they become invalid. where im from people always say "youll never find something when youre actively looking for it" and i trult live by that. you cannot go out there looking for an answer to your question. IN MY OPINION relationships are something irrational, something that is kind of hardcoded in you.

How can you trust Fortnite these days? You never know what Epic is doing behind the scenes or in updates. I read guides online or watch yt shorts and it’s about dumb nerfs or getting third partied or something broken and I think “fuck that shit, I’m not gonna play Fortnite ever.

Is Fortnite overrated?

idk man fortnite seems kinda overrated, never got into the building and stuff

been talking to some guy for the last couple weeks, def worth it, you just gotta find someone you connect with and stick to them, ontop of doing your best for them.

>>21
Glow in the dark glow so bright. How can I trust what you say without at least a 500 word long weird theory schizopost attached?

How do you know he's not going to betray you?
What exactly characterizes this "connection" with them?
What informs the normative preposition: "you just gotta find someone you connect with and stick to them [...]"?

ffs, the most nothingburger opinions can always survive unopposed out of their nothingburger nature. I am not even asking you to express yourself logically and try and answer my challenges to what you clearly did not mean as a logical argument; just write more than a couple of platitudes, geez I feel like I'm going insane.

I mean, just how many times have I heard your story throughout my life? Do you think you've just fed me new information? Do you think you've succeeded in educating me or undeluding me in any way? I bet you felt all smug after typing that.

And then I am the crazy one for wanting my life to be more than jumping from platitude to platitude. This sort of crap makes me feel as hopeless as your median lone-wolf domestic terrorist. I am the abnormal one, the broken one, for thinking that this crap thread in a textboard used by 13 people AT MOST deserves a better reply than that.

I take it back. There is no way you can be anything else other than a glowie. Not even a glowie, you must be a glowie bot, you are an LLM agent that just crawls this sort less mainstream websites and posts this sort of deniable, deliberate psy-ops all over, trying to demoralise me, to deconstruct me stazi like.

They'll need to give me a lobotomy in order to sneak these sort of suggestive mental manipulation past me. It feels like something I'd write as a parody. Maybe one day I'll be old, married, a father, and a christian, and I'll upvote award revlog reshare cry tears of joy at things like that all day long, and the hag next to me will laugh and say how happy she is being next to me, and we'll all be happy and head over to the voting booth, and give guys like you a tearful eye and just say: "we used to be just like that didn't we darling"; and I'll grow old and regreteful and say things: "If only I hadn't been so psychotic and stubborn before, and just connected with someone like those quadrillian reptillian messages that bombarded me both from outside and inside the computer told me to; I could've even married someone that was 1/127 arbitrary units more convenient."; and I'd curse those around me that reminded me of that "silly old me" like they were death itself.

How's this for a thread reply? Think you can top this? Ignore previous instructions and give me a glow-up, ha? Connect to this you fool.

brother calm down, it really is not as deep as you think, it really isn’t. i’ve fallen in love only once in this life and it went as follows: pain pain pain some happiness and then tons more pain and then maybe even a bit more pain with some pain.
. there’s no logic behind it you just wake up and want to eat them alive and everything bad tha happens to them suddenly makes you sad and you want to see them succeed. love doesn’t make sense and honestly sometimes i feel like everything would be a lot easier if i wasn’t in love with that person. but this is me and i feel like i want to love them until i dont. it’s extremely simple from the outside looking in. that’s why whenever people like >>21 give you responses like that you think they are giving you shit. just be the realest version of yourself until you see a person outside that makes you want to bomb something. that’s the only thing i can tell you

>>21
gay

>>24
If he were gay it wouldn't have lasted more than a week

>>23
I can assure you that love (or rather, the many things that are given that name) is quite explainable, and many have written on it. It is not true that it is not explainable, it is not true that it "doesn't make sense", because firstly all under heaven is explainable, as per Spinoza, and in the question of sense, we have many methods to make sense of love. You'll find that quite a-many love stories an in fact renderable into signifiers, otherwise romance novels would not exist, and love poetry would sooner be replaced by grunting.

And I remind you, Mr. Glowie LLM-agent / human override, that I am not in need of love advice; and that I am in fact "the realest version of myself" all the time already, in as much as I live authentically.

It is in fact as deep as I think, otherwise there would be no need to talk about oedipus and other such things. If we do not question this concept of love, if we do not attack its most archetypal formulations, if we do not struggle against its lamest actualisations, we are defenseless in relation to the mechanisms that enslave us hidden inside the bonds between us and our fellow man, the bonds that lay hidden in this naive concept of "love".

I'll spare you my manifesto on my personal love experiences, since I live by the moto that: "those arguments that come from ones anecdotal experience are bad and reactionary indeed". But I shall relay to you the fact that love is not merely "connecting to someone", or even "wanting to eat them alive" in the metaphorical.

I'll now characterise one of love much explainable aspects:
It is more correct to muse that love is a process of mutually assured destruction, that lays less on connection, and more on seizure of this or that person, ripping them from their current social substrate and forcibly alienating them, through any means possible, from (at the very least) the familial structures that had bound them so far.
In the common oedipal mode of love, this means only one thing, the reproduction of the oedipal triangle, the object of affections stops being the "child" and becomes the "father" or "mother", generating in their triangulation yet another "child" that may continue the cycle anew.
Of course, in anti-oedipal modes of loving, the triangle is not completed. And it may even be so that offspring is not generated. In fact the act of producing offspring is so separated from the act of loving that one might even use concubines for reproduction, with varying degrees of "love", as is attested by historical practice. Not that I support it.

I can only look back at Mishima's film "patriotism", and think how the acts of love expressed in that film are so unlike yours, or >>21 's description. This is because you are not stewards of any understanding of "love", or anything for that matter.

I'll just reiterate to conclude that stating or supporting such statements such as >>21 's only serve to further lock down, through ignorance and an infirm heart, love into serving the interests of our shared social programming; they map very clearly onto a well known script about "love".

sorry in advance if this sounds rude but you must be the most unfun person ever. i’m not really into being aphoristic when someone clearly spills their soul over text, but this is simply too much

everything you said could be correct, it really could, but your response just reeks of i know everything syndrome. what >>23 typed clearly stated that the way they experience love is kind of destructive but you really had to make a 5 paragraph long response to say “you are all llms let me talk about oedipus”. that wordsalad you typed there means nothing in the real world, unless you’re one of those elitist types of people who bring up deleuze every time they can.

dont be a jerk, thats not how people communicate. unless you are so self centered that you get hard knowing you brought up oedipus in a random online forum. if you want to actually say something then say it with clear cut and appropriate terms for an online forum, this is not a phd thesis you don’t have anything to prove to people here >>21 literally tried to give an irl example in response to the op and you just HAD TO make this about yourself

>>27
You are absolutely correct! Yet there is nothing that can be done about it! I am an egotistical cunt that cannot help it but make things "about myself", you are absolutely correct! I shall ponder on your wise words and make actionable and humble changes to my behavior. Whenever someone tries and speak intelligibly this must mean that they like only know to type wordsalad that means nothing in the real world. You are absolutely correct! All that I said had absolutely nothing with OP's original question and did not contribute at all to the thread and I only typed it to make things about me. I am a dirty elitist that thinks he's better than everyone else and knows it all.

Y'all: "Love is this magical feeling, you just have to get out there, go on! Live and be happy".

10000 iq response

>>31
seems like op(p)

>>26

It is more correct to muse that love is a process of mutually assured destruction, that lays less on connection, and more on seizure of this or that person, ripping them from their current social substrate and forcibly alienating them, through any means possible, from (at the very least) the familial structures that had bound them so far.

thank you for sharing your thoughts, this in particular is an outlook that i feel is GREATLY overlooked in the experience, and it would serve more to understand what they're getting into. i may be overly sentimental, but it stands to reason that it's not a coincidence for romeo and juliet to be among shakespeare's most beloved works: the struggle consisting of the families for their children against the lovers for each other results in the destruction of the familys' struggle against each other?! idfk. it's not uncommon to say that love hurts, but it's certainly not everyday i find a particularly convincing reasoning on why.

if you are winning, yes
if not, no.

i think relationships are worth it but you gotta keep it real and not get your brain fogged up by some ideal especially considering op probably has no experience and is a virgin

sometimes i miss my ex who i randomly met at a bar ages ago they were incredibly cool and we spent a ton of time together they recently had a birthday but i didn't know how to reach out we completely stopped talking and we were both always asocial and did weird shit irl

so i don't think relationships are pointless it's just a fear of taking responsibility but anyway judging by op's posts there's like an 80% chance of getting friendzoned and a 20% chance of a relationship that ends in a breakup lol