what are the characteristics of the denpa? what are the characteristics of the normie? assuming there are those who are not easily categorized as either, who are these others?

my idea is that identity is at best a game we can play but more often i find that it resembles a labyrinth or maybe a prison. i have a hard time trusting people when they dont acknowledge it as the tool for control that it seems to unavoidably be.

yes i actually believe in architypes.

i think neither "normie" nor "denpa" are archetypes.
i have no idea what identity has to do with archetypes. individuals aren't archetypes, they at most aspire to some archetypal ideal.
have you tried not giving a shit about what anyone else is doing and just drill into yourself, your motivations, your passions, your principles, the things you give a shit about? who the fuck cares what game anyone else is playing. if you aspire to manipulative mask wearing shit, then own it.

sorry that was needlessly aggressive.

the use of ingroup/outgroup classifiers with vague/ambiguous/oft-contrary attributes is literally prehistoric. i dunno if its a game. doesnt seem like it is always. they are supposed to be tools to find people who are compatible with eachother in some form or another. shared language / darmok and jilard on the ocean type shit.
if denpa isnt useful congrats you are a normie. but since you are here it probably is useful. but it isnt an archetype. you might be able to find some qualities that help shape the classifier, (there are several fruitless threads here attempting to do that very thing) but the term doesnt care and performs its function regardless.

to answer the question in your initial post, yes. i think your advice is serviceable, but there are points at which neglecting identity in favor of pursuit of passion is dangerous. for this reason, i like to try to understand it. for example, i dont love to be a bad houseguest, despite it being an identity that ive felt upon myself more times than id like to admit.

Archetypes is the wrong word. Templates is better. Kongzi said that what distinguishes people is training. In other words, 'normie' is a template people are trained to embody, not just a thing that arises from the world naturally. Normies are the outcome of industrial turbocapitalism who are disciplined to take on the template and live by it. You are right about identity. It is a prison.

>>3
Identity seems more complicated than the use of names to describe groups. Its funny how identity is considered super important today. However, it didn't become a popular as a concept until the 1950s. Sociologists and anthros of 20s and 30s barely even used the word. Identity seems to me to be a recent invention.

I believe in the asshole triad, sad asshole, happy asshole, angry asshole

>>6
You forgot gaping asshole

voxday and PUAidiots are... idiots
trying to fit actual people in to boxes is stupid

anyways
https://www.getgle.org/articles/males/
lawful denpa: Gamma Male, Epsilon Male, Phi Male,
true denpa: Lambda Male
chaotic denpa: Omega Male Zeta Male, Iota Male, Sigma Male

lawful normie: Beta Male, Eta Male
true normie: Alpha Male
chaotic normie: Theta Male, Delta Male

>>8
i sorta love how awe inspiringly simplistic and dehumanizing the worldview this paints is. like a man can only be defined by its relationships with capital and the inhuman judge deity called “women”.

anyway time to forget anyone would ever choose to think this way.