>>66
i did watch the whole thing. twice now probably.
the fact that someone is bored by a single discussion, even after inquiry about it just isn't a very good example. And yes I was being hyperbolic.
but let's swap literally any other inane topic out, you didn't provide the actual topic which is pertinent because being bored by the topic is too obvious a reason for the reaction to ignore. I'm sure Kearesu has shit he is interested in and "introspects" about. the dude had a channel and talked a hell of a lot about a fair number of things. never seemed like the kind of shit a completely "instinctual non-introspective person" would be doing. but to be fair, I never lived with the man, so maybe that was just a complete facade, and I don't really have any kind of read at all. but basically anyone who is any good at software shit has /some/ level of introspection. so not only is the example in the abstract not great, the steel man of normie being a short lived denpa-tuber kinda seems off the mark. Now if the example were, some random person you tried talking to at your janitor job, then maybe it would feel a little more on the mark. you know... a fucking normie...

I do accept that normie is used commonly purely as an ingroup-outgroup slur. "we aren't normies, they are" it doesn't matter who "they" are, just that "we" aren't "them"
so in part I agree that it's often meaningless. But if everyone always gave up any time words had multiple conflicting meanings and usages, then we wouldn't have language at all. we can still look for some definition for the word. I like the idea of "reaju" and i feel it is close to what I mean when I say normie at least. even if you aren't actually a reaju you can still pretend to be one, for social nicety's sake. ie, the only real normie is the one you have constructed in your head and use as a model for basic human interactions where you don't want to make any waves. And in fact it may be that all the "normies" we see are, in fact, doing that same thing.
But I do feel that there are those who "have nothing behind that mask". people who are just satisfied by their 9-5, 2-4 beers and 5 hours of whatever programing the corponet provides them. but maybe they are "instinctual non-introspective people". thinking nothing. i would struggle to call such a creature human.

but i guess my point is - the video is bad and does a bad job explaining your point. that is core from which my vitriol stem. My proof is that post you made is much more clear, and would be a 3 minute video.

>>66
I'd argue normies do exist. As the term has grown in popularity, that nowadays you hear it conservative e-celebs using it commonly to refer those who don't fall in their ideology. As any label with prominence, it effects everyone who takes part in the game. That is to say, normie is now an egregore. As OsakaSyndrome pointed out, it seeks to divide us. All egrogore divide, but the normie is especially prodent.

Difference is that people who engage with the normie, do not identify themselves as one. No it is being opposite of normie that is desirable. It doesn't matter, as long as one entertains that thought does it control the person. Even using the term normie ironically still is an act of engagement.

Do not interpret this leering auspice as an immovable force. One simply has to stop engaging with the term normie and all of the derivatives of it (words that split communities, people without providing any useful inquiries).

>>66
Aspiring to reaju is probably a nice thing, if it's possible to achieve. I wish him luck in that endevor.

Do you have to be working in an entry level job to be a normie in your eyes

Did I fucking say that?
Have you any experiance working any other kind of job? You bumping elbows with white collar folk in ivory towers and holding out on us about it?
I gave that example because it's something you /may/ have had experience with, since you were ostensibly working some janitor job during the "kaeresu arc", refrencing the same period of time.
Bitch here claiming I don't understand examples to then willfully not understand an example. ffs

Also I wasn't saying that "it was definitely boredom" I said that boredom was an equally likely reason for claiming to "have no thoughts", but again, I'm ok being wrong about that. but uh. I wonder what kaeresu thinks about cars. Nothing? What about guns? Still no thoughts? How does that work exactly, considering he has made choices about one over another.
"nope he said he has no thoughts in reply to all these conversations we had so that means he has no introspection at all"

we don't have to keep using kaeresu as the steel man, because frankly we are missing the universe for the twigs.
If an agent is making decisions, those choices, being informed by past experiance which results in favoring one thing over another, unless the basis is purely mathmatical (and even then the value used (ie cost, weight, size, color, etc) is subject to this same line of reasoning), must contain some element of thought. Conscious or otherwise.
Otherwise what you have isn't a person, it's an automaton. Being unable (or not giving enough of a shit to) to articulate the thoughts doesn't preclude them.

It surprises me you haven't met someone like that

In my experiance every person is interesting and has interesting thoughts about things. It's user error if you aren't able to figure out what it is and find it interesting as well. #skillissue
More, I kinda don't want to believe that I am living in a world surrounded by subhuman P-zombies. Maybe that makes me work a little harder to find the interesting parts of people.
I don't have to give examples of people I know, have known, etc. You would likely just take it and twist it into "strange you only mention X kind of people" then call me a *ist.
I state it simply as a fact. I have had conversations with many thousands of people, and none of them were boring.

make libelous unsubstantiated claims about me and my character

what claims exactly did I make about you and your character? I boiled down your video in the way I saw it. I found it reprehensibly off base and reflected that with my language.
I have known you to autisticly screed about drugs till the cows come home, so I used it as an example Something which I'm sure you have no problem understanding. ;) of something kaeresu might find boring and have no thoughts on. I confess my read of the normieness of kaeresu may have been incorrect. But I can only speak to my POV, and that POV changes with the information I receive.

I frankly don't give a shit if you like me or not.
I'm only speaking directly to you because you decided to namefag, I believe I would have reacted similarly to the points in either case, but I suppose some of your points couldn't have been made without the crutch of identity. I guess we'll never know.

I do agree that it's pretty juvenile to use the term 'normie'.
But here we are discussing it's meaning. We are the clowns.

anyway. what's the definition of "game"?