>>27
Maybe, but that doesn't mean making youturd videos is a good idea, specially if the guy does it on his "spare time" in OP's post he clearly states that he doesn't even feel like it. The only good reason for him to actually force himself to do something would be if that thing was rewarding. Either from money or actual meaningful skills.

>>29
see >>12

>>30

social skills
friends

Normies get out.

>>31 see that why normie has no meaning, you cant prentend to be a goblin anti-human and then say everything i dislike is normie, also you wouldn't even be an efficient goblin at that

i stopped thinking normie was an actual like indictment of people when the stoner nympho guy at my high school was saying it

>>33
I stopped using it when I saw furries use it. Not against them, just understood the term became mainstream.

>>32
Wtf are you talking about? Muh social skills are for normies-only. Normies = normalfags
>>34

Not against furries

imo furries are our brothers. They are native internet perverts like otaku so of course they would say "normie".

i dont believe anyone on here is actually about that action since you all enjoy talking about it too much

>>37
Implying most youtube videos are any more than talk.

>>35
If you can't see how social skills are both advantageous to non-normies and will make you a happier person, you're actually retarded.

>>39
I agree.

>>38 small misunderstanding there, I was talking about the "NON-normie" life, some poeple here are very much exaggerating, putting too much emphasis on it, I dont believe any of it

>>41
fair

>>39
>>40
>>41
Normies get out

>>43
Normies do not exist.

>>44
Sorry OsakaSyndrome, but this is an anti normalcattle website.

>>44
Yes they do dumb motherfucker. They're everywhere

>>46
Arguable
It’s possible that what we call a normie is just a person who is wearing their social mask. Playing the part society gave them. I suppose there are those who are more averse to doing it at all but some times you just gotta go to the store and be polite, thus evoking normie-realness temporarily

But also plenty of people are just that mask and nothing more

>>44
A normal person is one who wears a mark of the beast.
A normie is a person who is controlled by the mark of the beast.

>>48
2deep4me

The normie question answered by n0 thanky0u
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E0uqT8D0j5o

>>50
The gist for those who didn't watch the video. You're a normie if you didn't watch the video 20 times. You're an otaku if you did.

Goodvideo

>>50
Stop shilling this degenerate 80IQ subhuman please.
>>51

differing people as either normies or otakus

The sheer retardness in this site makes me feel like a God

>>53
The point of Denpa-chan is to be a hub for N0 followers. It was created for that purpose. If you disagree with it, then use other textboards.

I don't think n0 believes that there's such a thing as a normal. Basically we are all normal.

>>55
normalcy is relative to the average person. The average person doesn't exist. Therefor there is no such thing as normalcy.

>>54
proof?

>>50
osaka answered it correctly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtfUn2KsU1A

>>58
who cares what this faggot thinks. he's a normie himself. i bet he learned about azumanga cause of tiktok

>>59
Nice bait.

>>58

osaka goes off on a tirade based entirely on the anecdotal situation of another person not giving a shit about the asinine topic he spent 15 minutes vomiting at them about (lets be honest, it was probably about the effects of some drug compared to other drugs)

anyway. the distinction of 'reaju' vs 'otaku' N0 makes does seem to work well. especially compared to this 'instinct driven person' idea that osaka digbro-glassesly farted out.

regarding finding motivation to make youtube videos.

Either do it or don't. most of the people who make them in this space were addicted to the act of monologging shit at themselves (either internally, or written) then decided to start recording it.
if you just want to make videos about something, do it. turn on your camra app and record. maybe post it maybe delete it. once the act of recording is habitual you won't need motivation.

>>59
what is normie about osaka

>>61
You're still baiting. I refuse to believe you're stupid enough to misinterpret what hat I'm saying to this degree

>>62
I want to point out the fact that I used the word "inquiry" multiple times in the segment of the video you are fixated on. I said "inquiry" because I would ask Kearesu questions or a series of questions that were meant to make conversation.
I also can confirm none of the inquiries I referred to in the video revolved around drugs or their effects. If they had, I would understand why he would provide non-responses. He had never taken or even researched drugs, and attempting to construct a conversation around something he had little interest in would be selfish given that he could not participate. And if you want, I can get Kearesu himself to create a trip on here and confirm this.

Also, I do not know where you got this idea that, that video revolved around that anecdote that I had only spent less than 2 minutes explaining. It was an example I gave, in attempt to illustrate a much larger concept (that could've also been illustrated without the example.) The example was the least relevant piece of information in that video which leads me to believe >>65 is correct.

Like, is this concept really that difficult for you to understand? People use examples or hypotheticals to illustrate broader concepts. They're primarily talking about the *concept*, the example(s) used are only a small piece of this. What you're failing to understand in this comment is a basic aspect of abstract thinking.

Unless you just didn't listen to the video, there's no way you could come away thinking a comment like this is reasonable. You do not even address the thesis of the video. Instead you make vague, unsubstantiated assertions that I'm basing the thesis off of one single anecdotal experience.

It's even more jarring that you'd assume these conversations were "15 minutes of word vomit at them", when in the video I am directly referring to questions, or inquiries, I was trying out in an active attempt to engage Kearesu and learn more about him and his thought process.

What the video is really about, is this idea that "Normie" is a social construct that doesn't serve any purpose aside from internet dick measuring contests and pretentiousness. The idea was that a "normal person" does not exist.

The segment of the video you took particular issue with and attempted to paint the entire video as being about, while completely misunderstanding, was *my attempt at steelmanning the concept of normie.* It was my attempt at making the best argument for the concept of normies. A concept I disagree with and believe does not exist.

As someone who's seen n0's video, argued with him about it endlessly, and even gotten him to agree that it has certain flaws, obviously I think that video is woefully inadequate at steelmanning the concept.

So, I used an example to illustrate a good argument for a bad concept. The best argument in defense of "normies and non-normies" as concepts is "instinctual non-introspective people" vs. "non-instinctual introspective people". A paradigm that your daddy N0THANKY0U has endorsed and agreed with, by the way! When I brought this up to him, he thought it was a good way to describe two groups that he (unlike myself) believes exist.

That's the thing. I have been painstakingly arguing against this concept of "normies" since at least 2019, drawing on similar themes each time. The least you could do is criticize my positions in good faith. It would generate much better discussion, which is something this dying e-slum of a website desperately needs.

>>66
i did watch the whole thing. twice now probably.
the fact that someone is bored by a single discussion, even after inquiry about it just isn't a very good example. And yes I was being hyperbolic.
but let's swap literally any other inane topic out, you didn't provide the actual topic which is pertinent because being bored by the topic is too obvious a reason for the reaction to ignore. I'm sure Kearesu has shit he is interested in and "introspects" about. the dude had a channel and talked a hell of a lot about a fair number of things. never seemed like the kind of shit a completely "instinctual non-introspective person" would be doing. but to be fair, I never lived with the man, so maybe that was just a complete facade, and I don't really have any kind of read at all. but basically anyone who is any good at software shit has /some/ level of introspection. so not only is the example in the abstract not great, the steel man of normie being a short lived denpa-tuber kinda seems off the mark. Now if the example were, some random person you tried talking to at your janitor job, then maybe it would feel a little more on the mark. you know... a fucking normie...

I do accept that normie is used commonly purely as an ingroup-outgroup slur. "we aren't normies, they are" it doesn't matter who "they" are, just that "we" aren't "them"
so in part I agree that it's often meaningless. But if everyone always gave up any time words had multiple conflicting meanings and usages, then we wouldn't have language at all. we can still look for some definition for the word. I like the idea of "reaju" and i feel it is close to what I mean when I say normie at least. even if you aren't actually a reaju you can still pretend to be one, for social nicety's sake. ie, the only real normie is the one you have constructed in your head and use as a model for basic human interactions where you don't want to make any waves. And in fact it may be that all the "normies" we see are, in fact, doing that same thing.
But I do feel that there are those who "have nothing behind that mask". people who are just satisfied by their 9-5, 2-4 beers and 5 hours of whatever programing the corponet provides them. but maybe they are "instinctual non-introspective people". thinking nothing. i would struggle to call such a creature human.

but i guess my point is - the video is bad and does a bad job explaining your point. that is core from which my vitriol stem. My proof is that post you made is much more clear, and would be a 3 minute video.

>>66
I'd argue normies do exist. As the term has grown in popularity, that nowadays you hear it conservative e-celebs using it commonly to refer those who don't fall in their ideology. As any label with prominence, it effects everyone who takes part in the game. That is to say, normie is now an egregore. As OsakaSyndrome pointed out, it seeks to divide us. All egrogore divide, but the normie is especially prodent.

Difference is that people who engage with the normie, do not identify themselves as one. No it is being opposite of normie that is desirable. It doesn't matter, as long as one entertains that thought does it control the person. Even using the term normie ironically still is an act of engagement.

Do not interpret this leering auspice as an immovable force. One simply has to stop engaging with the term normie and all of the derivatives of it (words that split communities, people without providing any useful inquiries).

>>67

the fact that someone is bored by a single discussion, even after inquiry about it just isn't a very good example.

You're still claiming it was a single discussion which is strange. I implied that this was not the case in my prior comment but I will explain it more clearly now. It was many, many attempts at discussion over the months I lived with him.

maybe that was just a complete facade

He would tell you now that it was. He would also tell you now that "Norminess is next to godliness." Literally. He would also tell you that all of his videos were deleted because they were promoting negative values that he now (for sure) disagrees with, that he only performatively believed at the time due to serious mental health issues.

basically anyone who is any good at software shit has /some/ level of introspection.

Introspection with respect to software, sure. But not necessarily the human experience, or their own experience. I would ask him a lot about himself and I would not describe his responses as the product of "boredom" as you've repeatedly attempted to frame them. I would describe them as the result of him "not thinking anything", as he rather bluntly put it.

if the example were, some random person you tried talking to at your janitor job, then maybe it would feel a little more on the mark. you know... a fucking normie...

So we're reaching a strange place now. Do you have to be working in an entry level job to be a normie in your eyes? I know that's probably not what you're saying, but the fact that you've drawn up certain careers (at least programming) as being ostensibly less-normie is interesting.

I fully admit that the example I gave was not the most easily understandable for a general audience. But for me and my friends (the people I primarily make videos for), the example of kearesu was funny and relatable. Because n0 and everyone else knows exactly what I'm talking about when the say the things about him that I said. You might not. But maybe you got filtered normie ;>

I do accept that normie is used commonly purely as an ingroup-outgroup slur. "we aren't normies, they are" it doesn't matter who "they" are, just that "we" aren't "them" so in part I agree that it's often meaningless.

My problem isn't just that it's a commonly used ingroup-outgroup slur. It's that even the most fervent advocates for the term struggle to define it. Everywhere you go, everywhere who's using it has a different definition. Where do you think the endless arguments on 4chan and discord over who isn't and is a normie come from? I've sat in the background during so many of these childish discussions of grown folks trying to prove who is a bigger "loser" in society. It's so strange.

But if everyone always gave up any time words had multiple conflicting meanings and usages, then we wouldn't have language at all.

That is true but most words, while they do have conflicting meanings and usages, have a succinct explanation for each context in which they're used. The daylight between one person's perception of almost any of these words we're thinking of, is usually not vast. Unless we're getting into like, highly specific usages that exist in say, slang. Normie is a word the definition evaded long ago. If a definition ever existed in the first place.

the only real normie is the one you have constructed in your head and use as a model for basic human interactions where you don't want to make any waves. And in fact it may be that all the "normies" we see are, in fact, doing that same thing.

This is a compelling idea. What you described is something we all do. It sounds almost like code-switching, which is something pretty much everyone is capable of and does. But a bit deeper. You're definitely getting at something.

people who are just satisfied by their 9-5, 2-4 beers and 5 hours of whatever programing the corponet provides them. but maybe they are "instinctual non-introspective people". thinking nothing. i would struggle to call such a creature human.

There's your normie, then. It surprises me you haven't met someone like that. They're everywhere. I feel like I have met and attempted to engage with countless people that meet that description, albeit with other professions. I used to describe them almost like vermin. Now, I just think they make for really bad conversation.

but i guess my point is - the video is bad and does a bad job explaining your point. that is core from which my vitriol stem. My proof is that post you made is much more clear, and would be a 3 minute video.

That's no reason to be rude to me or make libelous unsubstantiated claims about me and my character. You are acting in good faith now because I'm directly speaking to you. Which says a lot. I do not like you.

You're right that the video does a bad job of explaining my point. Some of my vlogs miss the mark like that. I decided earlier this year that in future vlogs I'd improve with extensive notes and retakes if necessary because it got boring making these "thought experiment" vlogs without any preparation. The video you've made the conscious decision to be a cunt to me over, is definitely not one I would make today. The topic is deserving of a video that had more time in the oven.

>>66
Aspiring to reaju is probably a nice thing, if it's possible to achieve. I wish him luck in that endevor.

Do you have to be working in an entry level job to be a normie in your eyes

Did I fucking say that?
Have you any experiance working any other kind of job? You bumping elbows with white collar folk in ivory towers and holding out on us about it?
I gave that example because it's something you /may/ have had experience with, since you were ostensibly working some janitor job during the "kaeresu arc", refrencing the same period of time.
Bitch here claiming I don't understand examples to then willfully not understand an example. ffs

Also I wasn't saying that "it was definitely boredom" I said that boredom was an equally likely reason for claiming to "have no thoughts", but again, I'm ok being wrong about that. but uh. I wonder what kaeresu thinks about cars. Nothing? What about guns? Still no thoughts? How does that work exactly, considering he has made choices about one over another.
"nope he said he has no thoughts in reply to all these conversations we had so that means he has no introspection at all"

we don't have to keep using kaeresu as the steel man, because frankly we are missing the universe for the twigs.
If an agent is making decisions, those choices, being informed by past experiance which results in favoring one thing over another, unless the basis is purely mathmatical (and even then the value used (ie cost, weight, size, color, etc) is subject to this same line of reasoning), must contain some element of thought. Conscious or otherwise.
Otherwise what you have isn't a person, it's an automaton. Being unable (or not giving enough of a shit to) to articulate the thoughts doesn't preclude them.

It surprises me you haven't met someone like that

In my experiance every person is interesting and has interesting thoughts about things. It's user error if you aren't able to figure out what it is and find it interesting as well. #skillissue
More, I kinda don't want to believe that I am living in a world surrounded by subhuman P-zombies. Maybe that makes me work a little harder to find the interesting parts of people.
I don't have to give examples of people I know, have known, etc. You would likely just take it and twist it into "strange you only mention X kind of people" then call me a *ist.
I state it simply as a fact. I have had conversations with many thousands of people, and none of them were boring.

make libelous unsubstantiated claims about me and my character

what claims exactly did I make about you and your character? I boiled down your video in the way I saw it. I found it reprehensibly off base and reflected that with my language.
I have known you to autisticly screed about drugs till the cows come home, so I used it as an example Something which I'm sure you have no problem understanding. ;) of something kaeresu might find boring and have no thoughts on. I confess my read of the normieness of kaeresu may have been incorrect. But I can only speak to my POV, and that POV changes with the information I receive.

I frankly don't give a shit if you like me or not.
I'm only speaking directly to you because you decided to namefag, I believe I would have reacted similarly to the points in either case, but I suppose some of your points couldn't have been made without the crutch of identity. I guess we'll never know.

I do agree that it's pretty juvenile to use the term 'normie'.
But here we are discussing it's meaning. We are the clowns.

anyway. what's the definition of "game"?

>>68
egregore is a great word and you make good points

>>64
He's a fag. There are many different ways someone can be a normie, being a Low T bluepill libshit newfag is certainly one of them.

>>73
lurk moar

>>74
No you newfag

Thread is now autosaged due to off topic posting and flaming.

>>76
install gentoo

>>70
retarded nigga wants to act like something i've talked about in like 4 videos is the only topic i ever talk about. ok.