i have never held a friendship for more than 4-5 years and as i am approaching that 5 year mark with my current friends and i honestly feel like when we are done with uni im not going to talk to them ever again.the only thing i am asking from my main friends is 100% fraternite their problems are my problems but whenever the opposite is tested i can see clear as day that they dont really care about my problems. i know this sounds cringe but i truly feel alone when it comes to friendships if i could i would just never speak to them again

Yeah i really understand the asymetry in care for problems. I find that for most of my close friends I am always there for them if they need it yet when the opposite is the case I am just a nuissance. I dont know if its just that you expect more than most people do out of platonic relationships which is sort of what I think my problem is. But I guess you have to ask yourself if you would like to start over your social life again at that point in your life or if you would enjoy having some superficial relationships that can be fun.

i truly feel like these types of relationships are holding me back, i get that everyone has their own life and all but i really want to be 100% in tune with my friends. I don’t consider my “best friends” to just be there to have mindless fun, we are supposed to be ride or die. Right now for me it’s to the point where i simply refuse to let them know how i’m feeling about the things they might do cause whenever i do i get the same “you can’t expect everyone to act like that” and i truly believe that this train of thought is bs

kinda true atleast for me lost two friend groups after graduating one lasted almost 10 years the other 5 years i think it could have been because of my transition which sucks but atleast now i know who to avoid all of these friendships felt more like a cage an addiction of wanting to be given attention so bad that i hung out with them even if i came home feeling like absolute shit i always questioned it but i felt somewhat good being able to feel like i had people besides me but within i knew they were all fickle and bullshit when i left those friendships i realized how one sided they where i dont know why they even wanted me there i was always the one excluded and they are still friends amongst themselves what i hate the most is that all of you unanumously agreed you didnt like me then why not just tell me instead of inviting me to events just so you can ignore me everyone of these people was rotten in some way some worse than others but i think that what brought them together really was the feeling that they were nasty people not on the surface but by being arrogant and being so prejudiced and selfish like like how can you expect love from someone else when all you ever do is give the cold shoulder without ever even trying to understand the person that you dont like for whatever prejudiced reason now i know i never had any friends i was only ever a replacement or a tool nothing else

It must be crazy to be n0thanky0u and osaka. Still friends after 7 years!

i mean yeah tech could be the culprit but what about if it where a communist government i mean would it not make less selfish people and be more focused on the idea that if i do right by the people around me i will come out stronger or i mean what has lead people towards a more selfish way of thinking but the atomization caused by the capitalist idea of individuality i mean if communism won would we be sewing peoples heads together i mean it honestly seems like we are going in the wrong direction trying to reach simmilar goals like what about madmen trying to connect everyone against their own will through implanting syncronized chips in their brains its like we yearn for that connection but in actively trying to develop a cure we make ourselves more sick because we could follow communist ideals but instead say that we want the same but through a system that actively does the opposite and in doing so making our resources run dry trying to keep up with our dissolving flesh

im posting this with absolutely zero knowledge of the subject the most i have read is captian underpants vol. 1 and 2 but eitherway its a thought that makes my brain boil with rage and sadness so i wanna post it

>>3
Yeah i very much understand the idea of wanting to be totally in tune with your best friends. Honestly though I dont think i've felt that way with anyone in like 2 years, feels kind of impossible to meet anyone who really cares all that much about someone else. Personally whenever anyone is uncharateriscally kind/interested in me I feel like they have some ulterior motive or that such interest is going to be very conditional.

also yeah the thing about avoiding letting people know how they make you feel is super true too. I do think that you probably care more than the average person about interactions like that. I only say cause it sounds relatable and I know i care a lot lol. I think your right though in saying that its bs for people to just blow away your concerns. I kind of hate that people say they really value communication on problems but when they actually have someone in their life who wants to talk about those things theyre just like "omg bro your such a bummer, I dont act like that at all, why are you always complaining about everything" ect. I wish i had better advice about friends to give but i feel trapped in a similar way that you do.

>>7 i truly want to understand what youre talking about but im at a loss, are you saying that capitalism has alienated us from the idea of community that us trying to reach communism would mean to "sew peoples heads together"? if so thats an interesting take if not pls explain im dumb

>>9
Human instrumentality project is the only way to achieve communism

>>7
I don’t think communists (depends on the type) are less individualistic than other groups. Since, the whole idea of communism is that it will maximize individual freedom by liberating the individual from being a wage slave and from the alienation from labor. It’s just they tend to be economically collectivist and statist.

so many people doing politics in this thread. stfu

>>12
If you're gonna discuss social issues, morality, psychology etc. then there's no way to not mention capitalism or social structure at some point. It doesn't have to be inherently political either. As long as opeople aren't shilling political tribalism, its fine.

>>13 couldntve said it better, everything is politics. the only times when mentioning "politics" is cringe is when you make it the point of the convo and its not something that inevitably comes up during the fact