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1 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-21 05:17
I can't believe that denpa chan has existed for this long and nobody's made an OS thread. What operating system(s) do you have currently installed? On what devices? What do you like about it? Are you a distro hopper or have you settled on The One?
2 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-21 05:23
i'm currently rocking fedora on a t480, and the fedora xfce spin on desktop. i don't have much of a reason for sticking to fedora, i just like DNF more than other package managers
3 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-21 12:05
I pretty much settled on arch like 4 years ago and haven't changed since, aside from a few experiments with BSD flavors on a random laptop. Not sure if it's "The One", but it just werks pretty much.
4 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-21 21:42
>>3
I do not trust BSD and its kin because the B stands for Berkeley and Berkeley is a city in KKKalifornia /s
5 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-21 22:23
50 years ago california wasn't as batshit as it is now tho.

- - -

for "linux-like" void is my favorite. i've tried alpine, artix, gentoo, fedora, ubuntu, arch, openbsd, Hurd, mint, knoppix, and probably 15 or so other random distros here and there.
artix comes in second place at this time, but void is really nice. runit is very easy to create and manage services with, no systemd kruft i don't pull in myself, quite minimal base install, and xbps is really nice (and lets you get yum or something if you really want that) with seperate "free" and "proprietary" repositories so by default you don't get non-free software in the repo for those that care about that.

anyway, I said it before and I guess I'll say it again. 9front is better than linux for everything except gaming and web shit. so for most it's a non-starter.
I've got 4 computers, a thinkpad yoga with 9front, a custom built from 2017 (some then good intel core supporting 8 dimms) running 9front, a nas running openmediavault (pretty sure it's an ubuntu fork?) because 9front can't run docker containers thus can't run plex server, and a 2022 custom built with a 4090 running windows 11 (i fucking hate it, but it's been necessary for mana channeling reasons) and WSL running Void for doing linux shit when needed (predominately I just use drawterm and pop into my 9front server for most of that)
6 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-22 13:40
PeppermintOS, for now
7 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-22 14:23
linux mint on both of my laptops. cinnamon on the newer one xfce on the older.
8 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-23 03:20
I've been thinking about dumping windows when windows 10 stops getting supported. what's a good os for gaming?
9 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-23 03:47
when windows 10 stops getting supported.
2032 is still a while away
10 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-24 07:42
>>8
When steamOS releases for PCs it maybe worth to check it out.

If you want something right now, check out bazzite OS.
11 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-24 19:39
>>4
I'm hardly an expert, but as far as I can tell there's no reason to use a BSD as a desktop OS unless you're just doing it for fun because you like tinkering, so you're not missing out really.
12 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-26 12:41
arch on pc and my t480. i really want to get back to fiddling with nixOS and actually trying to use it for a while but i havent yet
13 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-26 15:20
Been using arch for about 2 years, but have gotten fairly sick of it. Been thinking of switching to debian or selling my soul to redhat and switching to fedora for a just works experience.
14 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-26 16:36
I daily drive Arch, but I am considering moving to Guix.
15 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-27 05:23
guix seems cool but given that i cant find time or motivation to learn nixOS i dont think ill be trying guix any time soon
16 Name: Anonymous 2025-03-29 23:47
I convinced my nontechnical academic friend to switch to linux mint. I fear I have won. The year of the linux desktop is nigh.
17 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-15 22:39
I wanna try out Puppy Linux sometime
18 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-16 22:48
tomorrow i will install netbsd on something, i will let you know how it goes
19 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-17 08:12
Win11 Enterprise (NT Kernel) 😎
20 Name: Frog 2025-04-18 15:25
i use MacOs, its pretty good but like most modern software its bloated as hell, which is pretty annoying. but it gets the job done, that being surfing the web 24/7
21 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-18 17:06
windoze 11 edukayshun
22 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-18 17:58
win 10 on desktop for the sake of gaming compatibility.
archlinux (i know, i know) on laptop with only the bare necessities added onto it (mpv, cdparanoia). offline-only, never updated.
23 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-19 17:18
>>19

Ewww standard emojis

I just really hate those little yellow fuckers
24 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-19 18:53
>>23
go back to reddit
25 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-20 09:38
I use manjaro because it's just a better version of arch if you don't fall for the propaganda
26 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-20 11:17
>>24
go back to that rock you crawed under from
27 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-21 12:52
>>26
no :(
28 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-22 00:54
nixos i struggled and fiddled with it for a while but now i couldnt imagine a change if i tried
29 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-22 18:27
>>25
Honestly manjaro is the best way to try out arch to see if you even like it
30 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-22 19:39
use plan9 acme if u can program in c run on thinkpad t420 or raspberry pi 3b+
im starting to think maybe linux sucks dick, linux is made by people with air conditioning and fast internet connections. arch linux kills itself if you dont upgrade it for over a year, no more pacman for u retard all ur packages dependencies disappeared. im p goin to switch back to a debian distro

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Laptop_per_Child
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLPC_XO
crackers failed to setup linux mesh network. imagine a wireless mesh network that you can download packages from easily without a faulty connection to the internet. we need communal software distribution. i pay 1.6k a year for my internet connection. im being fucked.
https://archlinux.org/mirrorlist/all/
fuck mirrors most of them are in the global north.
31 Name: Anonymous 2025-04-23 01:34
>>30
It's true, if you don't have consistent internet access a rolling release distro probably isn't for you. However, many people do have consistent internet access. I am glad that there are different package managers and distros which suit various people's use-cases.
32 Name: Anonymous 2025-05-02 15:04
I recently started using NixOS and I really enjoy the way it manage it's packages and configs, feel way more organized and clean than a regular linux distro
33 Name: Anonymous 2025-05-02 20:09
>>32
nix seems interesting for creating dev enviroments for industry setting but i don't know why i wouldn't just use a traditional package manager for a personal use system. as long as the repo is maintained sensibly by fixing packages to all follow the distro's philosophy for packages (using sbin / bin / etc in a consistent way)
34 Name: Anonymous 2025-05-04 18:10
nix doesn't do what gentoo does.
gentoo can't do what nix does.

also nixos akin to arch, you can't leave unmaintained system for years without & then resume maintenance, it's sad nixos doesn't address or sole this problem.

ideally everyone should roll their own custom os/distro/repos.
35 Name: Anonymous 2025-05-05 01:03
NixOS sucks dick stop using that shit
36 Name: Anonymous 2025-05-06 14:03
Trying Debian Sid (Unstable) since Arch broke and I managed to fuck up the downgrading somehow.
First impressions is "It is actually good". The installer was easy to use and the setup went smooth.
And for people who miss the AUR there is https://mpr.makedeb.org/ which is inspired by Arch PKGBUILD and also has its own binary repos.
Maybe if these aspects of Debian were promoted more I would have tried it sooner.
37 Name: Anonymous 2025-05-07 04:57
I put tails os on a thumbstick, then I realized I do nothing that needs tails
38 Name: Anonymous 2025-05-07 06:16
>>37

Same here.

My internet is too slow for tor anyway
39 Name: Anonymous 2025-05-19 15:25
Using endeavour os now, and it's pretty good. (It is a dummy-friendly version of arch linux at least in my humble opinion)
40 Name: Anonymous 2025-06-07 22:13
OpenBSD is my operating system of choice due to it being superior to Linux in regards to security, minimalism, documentation, and stability. Unlike with OpenBSD, Linux developers keep reinventing the wheel with different components every couple years. An example being audio in Linux with Alsa, Pulseaudio, and Pipewire. Another example being WPA supplicant, IWD, NetworkManager, and Connman. Most Linux distributions now use SystemD as well which has over 1.3 million lines of code (yuck). OpenBSD is good for desktop use and in my opinion is more user friendly then "minimalistic" Linux distros like Void and Linux.
41 Name: Anonymous 2025-06-08 06:45
>>40
It can't run visual novels doe
42 Name: Anonymous 2025-06-08 19:11
I switched to NixOS one week ago, and it's been fun to learn and get working. I was too complacent using Debian, so I decided to try something new. I did a minimal install, and I'm also using Xmonad for the first time. Right now, I have Debian on my PC and NixOS on my T480. I'll fully make the switch later this week. I think this is the one.
43 Name: 5 2025-06-08 21:20
win10 on a raider ge76 and graphene OS on a gpixel 7 pro.
i tried dynebolic for a bit but i need to give it another go when i have the time and energy. im quite comfortable using software i've grown accustomed to, especially fruity loops studio and foobar2000. i cant really imagine myself ever having a reason to leave these things behind or going through with having to deal with wine or using a VM for my favorite software. i imagine my next OS will be an LTSC version of windows.
44 Name: Anonymous 2025-06-10 06:58
>>43
win10 on a raider ge76
graphene OS on a gpixel 7 pro
I- I- I don't understand. Why not dualboot? Use windows only for the programs you really want/need.
45 Name: Anonymous 2025-06-10 16:35
>>42
nice. "An Hitchhiker guide to the NixOS".jpg

Let's say you have a binary app built for linux & distributed from http://downloadlinuxbinary.net/tarball.tar.gz. It's not a static binary, but dynamically linked to libA.so that is shipped in same tarball, and depend on a package libB.so.1.deb

how would you run such app on NixOS 25.05?

>>40
nice. does OpenBSD/You install, I mean compile, packages from sources by default?
46 Name: Anonymous 2025-07-28 12:04
why has everyone been switching to nixOS?
47 Name: Anonymous 2025-07-28 14:05
I use 9front, BTW
48 Name: Anonymous 2025-07-30 17:20
What operating system(s) do you have currently installed?
Gentoo on my desktop, Arch on my laptop, Debian on servers
What do you like about it?
Portage is unironically the only good package manager in existence, including any language/distro package managers and any other ports system. Having a portage overlay on your Github solves all problems with obscure packages, much more so than the AUR, which is a pity excuse for not building a better package manager than pacman. The AUR is centralized, requires accounts, and has a much more package building system, which will probably break on you if you look at it the wrong way, unlike Portage, which stands strong.

The option for a custom kernel is also neat. The amount of needless packages in normal distros like Debian or Arch is unacceptable for me and I want my kernel to be tailored for my purposes. Even on my Arch machine I use a custom kernel, since the default one includes so much things I don't need and still lacks options I want.

Are you a distro hopper or have you settled on The One?
I'm considering using ExHerbo, but Gentoo sufficies for my purposes, so I'm content with my OS. Not so much with Arch on my laptop, but it works, hence I'm not changing it.
49 Name: Anonymous 2025-07-31 13:40
Windows 10 is coming to an end. I need to replace it as my OS. I don't know which one to choose.
50 Name: Anonymous 2025-07-31 18:44
>>49
use a debian based distro if you don't care about updating
use a arch based distro if you want new shit
use a bsd based distro because fuck linux
if you have any extra computers install 9front on one of them
51 Name: Anonymous 2025-07-31 20:09
>>50
I went with ghostbsd because I wanted to be spethial
52 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-06 11:40
Windows 11. I’m stupid and it’s simple! Tried Linux briefly though and there were upsides for me personally. I’m sure I will be back someday…
53 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-06 16:35
>>52
Same. Linux just doesn't run the software I need for work and the FOSS equivalent is a trash fire.
54 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-06 16:42
>>53
Lol wagie
55 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-06 17:47
>>54
Arch toddler detected
*Pulseaudio Bassboosted Phonk Theme*
56 Name: .xz 2025-08-06 18:05
90 IQ, >20 BMI retard spent his whole Adderall prescription to install bloated arch systemd loonix to feel pseudo, always makes me laugh

https://github.com/sabotage-linux/sabotage
57 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-06 18:32
>>55
guy who thinks the only loonix distro is the trash fire known as arch
58 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-06 20:49
arch is literally fine
59 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-06 22:03
"could it be that there is variation in human intelligence?"
60 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-07 17:01
macOS is actually great, offering a solid Unix base with a polished GUI. The Terminal works out of the box, most Linux tools run natively, and Homebrew handles everything— brew install everything. Little Snitch gives you full control over network traffic and yabai brings tiling WM behavior straight to macOS. Apple Silicon is insanely efficient, you can push heavy apps like Ableton or ZBrush without any thermal drama. It’s one of the few platforms where you can go full dev mode and run pro-grade creative software without compromise.
If you’re feeling bold, you can even sudo nvram boot-args="rootless=0" and nuke macOS telemetry

/top tier Linux:

KISS Linux – Created by the same guy who did Neofetch and the Pure Bash Bible. It’s literally all about keeping things barebones: no bloat, no systemd, just the essentials. (This distro’s so light you can rm -rf / and still be good, probably.) The creator’s now farming, but the distro still alive if you want a minimal Linux setup.

SFS (Zen LFS) - Made by a TempleOS user. Pure nirvana.
echo "The universe is infinite; let’s compile peace" | tee /dev/serenity

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61 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-07 17:15
>>60
sfs? slackware from scratch? suckless from scratch? no results for "zen LFS" any links?
62 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-07 19:00
>>61
Stinky linoox user interjecting for a minute.

I suppose that "Zen LFS" means: "Linux From Scratch using the community maintained 'Zen' fork of the linux kernel". That being said I too have never heard of a distro called SFS. Very unsearchable name since SFS linux will always prompt the search engine to search for Squash-Filesystem. Modern search engines are so useless man.
63 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-28 17:56
Why does fedora have to be called that ...
64 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-28 18:28
hopefully i am not a complete idiot this time

>>63
if you really are interested in the reason : www redhat com en about brand standards history

i think the org was specifically making fun of the "people" who used the "free community redhat version". this is when I stopped using redhat stuff at all, I had previously purchased actual cd distribution versions of redhat, and was insulted by how they managed the "community free version" and never downloaded fedora. yes that means I hated the redhat org \before\ systemd. they were already planning their systematic destruction of linux back in like 2005 at the latest (who knows how much further back the seeds of evil go tho.)
but maybe it was just because their logo by that time was film-noiry fedora wearing detective vibe?
65 Name: Anonymous 2025-08-29 12:08
>>60
...if only world had yabai 15 years ago

>>64
black, grey, white, red (& the optional bioluminiscent one)
66 Name: Anonymous 2025-09-05 17:32
Linux balkanization might have been a mistake
67 Name: Anonymous 2025-09-11 13:28
i used to use arch w i3, then i broke the install via keyboard shenanigans and switched to popos. got a new laptop and installed arch and hyprland and im considering installing sway because i'm too used to tiling wms but also not smart enough to get used to hyprland completely
68 Name: Anonymous 2025-09-11 13:29
>>67
this all took place over ~3 years, and i wanna stick with arch cause i know more now than i knew back when i broke it
69 Name: Anonymous 2025-09-24 13:15
Gentoo, i use... gentoo.
70 Name: Anonymous 2025-09-25 02:52
I just use FreeBSD and Win for win shit stuff
71 Name: Anonymous 2025-09-29 07:18
>>44
thank you for your concern.

i currently use WSL on my primary machine but i don't have the wherewithal to spend time earning the proficiency in a *nix environment that i already have in windows.
also, im in school and my courses require me to learn pro tools, which im looking forward to learning despite the obviously horrendous business model it runs on. i have been using ubuntu with WSL for whenever i want to do linux stuff.

my cheap laptop has a botched devian install on it that i intend to replace with dyne:bolic, chosen for the creative software it comes with and the license it's built around.

i may begin primarily using linux sometime after my degree, but i also may drop out before then. maybe something i can't anticipate will happen. i'll worry about all that once i get to it.
72 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-12 05:27
I have been dual running windows | void and been spending 99.8% of the time in void. i feel like i should bite the bullet and format the disk and surrender the diskspace on the nvme windows lives on to the void. but im scrd. ;-; what if in that very moment i realize that the .2% is just something that hasn't come up in a while and is actually super important? what if the backup i made of the C drive is incomplete? what if i completely fuck up the transfer and lose both installs and my backups and also a meteor crashing into my house killing my grid but leaving me alive? what if anime isn't real?!

i need random validation from people who probably don't even exist so i can have some since of absolution from my responsibility for the decision!!!!
anyway. brb formating my drive.
73 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-12 08:08
well now that that's done, i have experienced again the awe-inspiring speed transition from slow af disk drive (over usb 3 to make matters worse) to nvme ssd. it's so much faster it screws with my brain.
74 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-12 17:19
Debian with i3
75 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-13 07:18
I recently encountered a BSD evangelist on a TF2 server. Interesting guy.
76 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-13 10:28
>>75
can you even play tf2 on the BSDs?
77 Name: meat 2026-01-13 14:10
>>76
I've seen a few videos of it running under freebsd via linuxulator though that was before the 64bit and vulkan update
78 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-13 20:45
Once I went BSD I never went back. BSD is the best OS even if the devs are gays.
79 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-14 04:00
sell me on bsd fam. i feel like if i'm willing to give up the convinience that linux kernel + runit init + xbps provides and go as far as bsd then there's no reason to not throw away the washing basin along with the baby and bathwater and be left with the zen minimalism of templeos and or plan9.
80 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-14 11:34
>>79
Cuck license. That's all you need to know.
81 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-14 15:26
>>80
i don't know if bsd is the cuck licence or if linux is. also i don't give a shit about random postlatin magic words.
82 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-14 20:45
>>81
nta. People say the bsd license is a cuck license because it let's people take your code and not give any contributions back, while the gpl requires they make any modifications public. I'm both cases they can use the software however they want, the only difference is if they're required to open source any changes they make to it.

>>79
bsd's ecosystem and idioms aren't constantly changing, as >>40 points out. the documentation is far superior to linux's, especially openbsd, the quality of their manpages will make you cum. compiling and installing software is usually easier, as you don't have the issue of a billion distro fragmentation, and ports/packages are better maintained.
83 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-14 22:07
>>82
but i have 9front. and i like void linux because it is easy, minimal (for linux) I don't have to deal with idioms changing because i stick with the same things and don't have to pull shit i don't want. pottering? who's that? doesn't exist. packages being maintained is /fine/ but also, when the packages i have work why do i care about updating them? so some macos using linux dev's patches can be installed? nah. then when i want to cream my pants with true bliss i run drawterm and zencode in c on 9front.

idunno. i last tried openbsd like 10 years ago and found the whole system to be like the devs of emacs painted a picture of unix. my text editor of choice on linux is unmodified vi. not vim, not nvim, and certianly not emacs.
84 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-16 22:49
>>80
licenses are meant for the oppressive upper class of the industry in the same vain as copyright, and all working programmer-level licenses (and copyright) are meaningless in practice. The closest to a "practical" license is Trilema's known faux-license:
I. You do not have, nor can you ever acquire the right to use, copy or distribute this software ;

II. Should you use this software for any purpose, or copy and distribute it, to anyone or in any manner, you are breaking the laws of whatever soi-disant "sovereign jurisdiction" you may be deemed to be located within, and you promise to continue doing so in the indefinite future.

Unless you are of that upper class in the industry, moral handwringing over the implied specifics of licenses that have no practical application for people with souls is pointless.
85 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-17 04:44
I don't give a shit about any of this. I just want to watch YouTube videos.
86 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-17 06:07
>>85
The purpose of the Sage option is to be able to criticize a thread without bumping it, making it more likely to die on its own. If you don't like a thread but feel the need to reply to it somehow, use Sage.

also, you're cattle and you will become obese from algo slop lmao
87 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-18 02:00
A Windows 7 on air-gapped ThinkPad is all you need
Chimera Linux is the only true Linux
88 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-19 03:04
GuixSD.
89 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-24 01:58
I'm currently using fedora linux with gnome, but I'm thinking of switching to kde plasma.
90 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-24 04:40
kde plasma is fairly nice if you like windows7ish style. I've been using it because i never understood the tiling window work flows, and just wanted something that works. gnome is too macy to my tastes. the good news is you don't have to fully switch, since you can almost certianlly just install kde plasma then switch at your login. altho you may need to switch your login service if gdm doesn't let you pick different ones (sddm and lightdm both let you switch for sure)
91 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-24 08:20
>>87
Used that for a while. Probably what I'd use if I wanted a "non-functional" Linux distribution
>>88
It's Guix System now, the Guix package manager is already a "Guix System Distribution" because it includes the Guix System command. I'm on Nix now(because my Atheros wifi-card hasn't arrived yet) I like Guix more but wish they just had a substitute for the mainline Linux-kernel on the Nonguix repo , so you wouldn't have to compile it on 90% of hardware configurations.
Learning both is useful since Guix has some outdated packages and Nix has the largest(though largely automated) repo.
>>89
>>90
I'm using GNOME until I'm comfortable with EXWM. Most of the other Desktop Environments don't contain basic stuff like Night Light and easily togglable Dark Mode(or better yet by sunset/sunrise) or Hover Click. KDE has too many options if I'd want to set up all that or use a more "minimal" DE and install a bunch of external software, I'd just configure a Window Manager/Compositor setup. EXWM is easier to move to, if you're already using Eemacs and have Emacs packages for doing some of that.
92 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-29 23:45
After using arch for years and messing with a bunch of different WMs I finally settled down and started using fedora workstation with gnome as my desktop environment, And almost everything works just how i want it to. I'm finally happy with my OS of choice.
93 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-30 04:42
>>92
total red hat cultural domination
94 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-30 11:14
>>47
fuck, okay already year passed but I replay answer, my conclusion - the best operating system for a laptop in principle, everything twisted on C language + thanks to anon who suggested to me Nyxt browser (LISP)

Harvest good this year
95 Name: Anonymous 2026-01-31 23:33
>>92
It's been a short while and fedora has been the best linux experience I've had. Everything just werks even though setting up rpm fusion is kinda annoying. Otherwise it's basically perfect.
96 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-07 11:04
Just use arch bro
97 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-07 12:06
Linux users think they are cool hackers but really they are just gay
98 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-08 13:44
I love being gay and safe from spyware
99 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-09 03:02
Linux won’t save you
100 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-09 18:26
>>99
I tend to agree, thanks to the corporate involvment in linux development it's pretty hard to see any kind of bright future for the platform, and it may already be compromised beyond recovery, but I do tend to feel that the worst of the bullshit is in userspace rather than in the kernel at the moment. Insidentally this is also why posix generally won't save you, and why posix emulation layers in other systems is a bad idea.

linux will become more convinient and more people will use it, but those aren't useful metrics.

All of this is rather pointless discussion. What /will/ save us? windows 95/98? OS/2 ? BeOS? the BSDs? templeOS?
Or do we need to go the osakaOS route and make a denpaOS?
101 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-09 18:55
>>97
When there's an OS thread on /g/, it mostly revolves around which distro is for trannies and which ones are not. But, in actuality, it is as you said.
102 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-10 03:06
>>100
What /will/ save us?
I say this at risk of breaking the no politics rule. But no technological innovation is coming to save us. All the "evil" that is currently expressed in technology and in the virtual/computer sphere is nothing more than an extension of the already totalised "evil" in the 3D "real" life [it is no coincidence that every "true" alternative sub-culture, finds its "driving force" from denying (in various ways) the undeniable, ever present, inescapable, absolute, self affirming "I am that I am" current state of things (or mode of social organization, if you will)].
So the only thing that will "save" OS's is the abolition (or at very least the annihilation, even if post-humanistically) of the social and economic constraints that create the necessity for: every present cyber-surveillance through customer OS's (michealshit and bigmacOS), predatory software and applications, actual mind control level social media, etc.

People can posteriorily question if such a liberation is possible or desirable, but that is beating a dead horse at this point.

I'm sorry if this was an uninteresting addition to the discussion.
103 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-10 16:04
>>102
I'm sorry if this was an uninteresting addition to the discussion.
As you should. You could have simply type
104 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-10 16:09
>>102
I'm sorry if this was an uninteresting addition to the discussion.
As you should. You could have simply typed out "No OS will sawe you". An operating system is a tool, it's like saying "a hammer will save you". Now it sounds like you typed philosophy questions to ChatGPT then shit out whatever your phone auto-suggested. You can make any OS offline and make Windows 10 private and virtualize it when you need it.
105 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-10 18:56
>>104
An operating system is a tool, it's like saying "a hammer will save you"
I mean, if you need to hammer in a nail then I guess a hammer will indeed "save you". So I don't think that aspect of the discussion is that unjustified. The point was to try an understand why (!) an hammer that would save us is impossible to be built.

You can make any OS offline and make Windows 10 private and virtualize it when you need it.
Even if you do so, windows 10 remains a crappy operation system, and the problems which surround user experience, software development and compatibility, etc. do not disappear just because even when the privacy angle is minimized. So that to doesn't really solve the problem.

Now it sounds like you typed philosophy questions to ChatGPT then shit out whatever your phone auto-suggested
That's what I get for typing stuff just before going to bed.
106 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-10 19:05
what would one recommend to run on an old t43 with a pentium that was meant to run windows xp
107 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-11 09:59
>>106
Antix or anything that you install the graphical environment to yourself
108 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-11 16:31
>>106
obligatory "install 9front on it" post
109 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-11 21:21
>>107
Antix is perfect, thank you. <3
110 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-11 21:43
antix was featured in a super bowl add recently some ai company
111 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-11 23:31
antix is just a more obnoxious debian flavored void linux.
112 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-12 00:19
>>111
more obnoxious to what?
113 Name: meat 2026-02-13 18:53
>>108
i wish i had hardware that i could install 9front on but oh well

I've been using windows 11 for too long i want to switch but i don't got the money or room for a proper storage solution... I miss using Arch I miss being able to use gcc without a ssh connection I miss systemd
114 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-13 19:58
I miss systemd

WHAT! anyway.

not being able to switch for lack of storage to transfer and back up does suck a lot. stuff like games can be redownloaded, as can most stuff that was originally summoned (this can be hard though with entropy effecting summon circle stability)
if you have very large personal datafiles (ie videos and the like) and you don't already have removable mass storage the switching or not it's probably best to have external backup to save you from losing literally everything anyway.
115 Name: meat 2026-02-13 20:18
>>114
systemd is so good its like way way way better than all the other options imo I can use anything really but its just sooooo goood
116 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-14 02:28
I hate Linux cultists
117 Name: meat 2026-02-14 02:37
>>116
This goes into circlejerk territory but i find so many "Hardcore Linux users" online have a quite frankly harmful shallow depth of knowledge gonna use some use-ability nightmare setup and then not know how to package manage. so i give up on talking about Linux usually
118 Name: 114 2026-02-14 06:34
>>115
>>117
I haven't seen good arguments in favor of it, I mostly just don't like being told what i can and can't do with my system, for that same reason if someone likes systemd then go for it. or windows. or mac, etc.

circle jerking can be it's own reward. to wit, pfetch-like installers are all cringe. it might maybe (if you are retarded) be useful in vm and server situations. is cat /proc/version too hard? huh?

also tiling window managers. i don't get it. god invented pointing devices because we are visual animals. our eyes move faster than we can process and anyone with half decent hand eye coordination can use pointing devices faster than remembering one of 2 dozen hotkeys. if you use a tile window manager stop dipping your damn toes in and go full chording wm with emacs! i honestly have no idea how people deal with set sized windows and positions. arbitraily sized and position windows that fluctuate on a moment to moment basis! it's the one true way!
119 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-14 07:03
>>115

Regardless of whether you like systemd or not, the issue is that it tries to choke out the rest of the ecosystem by bundling all sorts of unrelated functions in itself, and making unilateral decisions that should be made by distro maintainers... behaves more corpo than redhat or canonical. Their way or the highway
120 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-14 10:23
Multitasking and graphical desktop environments were a mistake. Everyone has ADHD now.
121 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-14 21:10
>>120
I agree.
122 Name: meat 2026-02-15 01:13
>>119
well i mean a lot of systemd is worked on by redhat but i mean even just a regular user of linux it's so much better than the other "alternatives" that there's not much competition in my mind and the "all sorts of unrelated functions in itself" is part of why it's so useful
123 Name: meat 2026-02-15 01:15
>>122
it ain't the 70s anymore and the Unix philosophy isn't that important especially outside of low-level areas (i.e kernel space)
124 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-15 04:50
>>123
i think this idea comes from the fact that linux generally is terrible at "unix philosophy" in general, not because "unix philosophy" isn't good or useful. like /dev/ and /proc/ aren't really useful, except through specific command interfaces, you can't just echo and read from them to do useful things for the most part. shell scripting is fractured, every service invents it's own config methods some even inventing their own bespoke language for doing so. some distros try to be cleaner about it but there's only so much that can be done without ripping out the whole foundation and starting from scratch. Even the original unix team knew that the unix kernal was not able to maintain it's "unix philosophy" in a distributed network environment, which is why they threw it away and started plan9.

plan9/9front is like the only thing that actually does unix philosophy and the ease it provides when actually embraced from top to bottom is incredible. All the problems plan9 could be solved by forcing the unix philosophy on more hardware, not by aquiessing to the non-unix demands of the hardware. for example, in a fully plan9 world, i could from my laptop pipe the display of my tv connected to a blue ray player to my phone. instant reverse screen cast with nothing but file pipeing. of course we don't live in the world where it can run on all hardware, and where device drivers are borderline impossible to create without vendor support.
125 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-15 23:09
>>124
(not who you were replying to)
people often say this but, not to say plan9 is bad or anything, there are plenty of formulations of linux which can fit quite nicely into the unix philosophy way of doing things. perhaps it's lacking in the networking department sure, I'll grant that, but that doesn't mean it should be dismissed entirely. KISS linux is the obvious example of a unix philosophy adherent distro, although it's not very commonly used, the philosophy of extremely minimal system with lots of small shell scripts tying everything together is very unixy in a good way. You can see the benefits of this system because it was designed to be maintainable by a single user, and when the lead maintainer left to become an olive farmer in greece or whatever without telling anyone, everything was maintained just fine. You can set up pretty much any linux (or BSD for that matter) to run with this kind of setup, very minimal with lots of small shell scripts tying things together, and it works very well in my experience.
126 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-22 07:44
>>123
the unix philosophy is not now nor was it ever particular relevant to kernel space. it was primarily intended for userland programs. people simplify the unix philosophy to "write programs that do one thing and do it well" but they're forgetting the two other pieces: "Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface."
127 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-22 08:02
>>126
this isn't strictly correct. the kernel maps devices into userspace. the "unix philosophy" then demands that it should do so in a way that works with streamed text interfaces, ie "everything is a file"
128 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-24 21:23
>>127
plan9 philisophy is superior to that, why lunix lags behind & so backwards? are it's developer-architects retarded?
Let's ask Linus (from Tech Tips)!
129 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-25 03:52
>>128
are it's developer-architects retarded?
Yes
131 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-27 07:58
>>130
what the actual fuck is this shit
132 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-27 08:45
>>131
no fucking clue, it'd take someone way braver or stupider than me to click that link to maybe find out (and or be added to some kind of watchlist)
133 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-27 11:34
>>130
>>131
>>132
@mail.com
I'm an email provider! ahh email provider
134 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-28 00:18
>>133
What was it? You guys saved it so I could see it, right? You're not afraid of links in CURRENT_YEAR + 10, right? Right??
135 Name: Anonymous 2026-02-28 02:17
>>134
it was literally just an ip address
136 Name: Anonymous 2026-03-05 22:59
My laptop is now OS-less and I have no other computer to make a bootable USB with. Oops!
137 Name: meat 2026-03-06 05:13
>>136
How are you postig this
138 Name: Anonymous 2026-03-06 07:02
>>137
I don't know.
139 Name: Anonymous 2026-03-06 08:22
>>137
A phone, most likely
140 Name: Anonymous 2026-03-06 11:37
>>137
I was on my Apple iPhone by Apple. My laptop is no longer OS-less, though! Back on Microsoft Windows 11 by Microsoft!
141 Name: Anonymous 2026-03-06 23:07
>>140
what a classic blunder. if the computer is already osless there is nothing left to lose, so there's no better time to move to templeOS
142 Name: Anonymous 2026-03-07 02:27
based templeOS user spotted
143 Name: meat 2026-03-08 16:00
>>142
I hate how templeOS and Terry Davis are just a butt of jokes. please give some respect man
144 Name: Anonymous 2026-03-09 05:30
>>143
wdym...i genuinely love terry davis and i want him to come back :(

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