I can't believe that denpa chan has existed for this long and nobody's made an OS thread. What operating system(s) do you have currently installed? On what devices? What do you like about it? Are you a distro hopper or have you settled on The One?

>>84
wow youre an idiot

hate using vitrual machines

/why/ that seems so bizare. qemu is fantastic.

risc-v

port is a strong word. It has risc-v compiler, and has been ported to specific IoC but the ARM and Risc-V situation make it borderline impossible to make proper ports. Basically every single board needs to be bootstrapped from scratch. And there are thousands of them each with different configurations. The only reason that this isn't a problem with linux is because for all these boards the devs themselves go through that individual porting work themselves so they can have something other than a paperweight to sell.

>>168
qemu is fantastic don't get me wrong i just find using VM's for like "more regular use" instead of like testing like code really clunky. and with the risc-v stuff yeah it's def a bunch of work though vf2 has some meh documentation but it was pretty popular for a while so it had decent user porting efforts (plus working with it baremetal myself) the bootstrapping isn't too bad from my experience (though really you'll be writing drivers from scratch in most cases anyway)

with 9front in qemu, you don't ever have to interact with the vm after you install it and set it up as cpu server. you just drawterm into it, in the real plan9 way. you don't even need to manually start it if you set it up as a service (which is just a shell script with runit so it's as easy to write as the command that started it in the first place :winkyface: )
i've only set up vms for services in this manner, basically headless installs that run in the background, doing their specific things. each as their own service, so they can be easily started and stopped.

adventuresin9 had some videos about doing a risc-v port and writing drivers. it does seem doable but it's a bit much for a "first time" plan9 install.

I am using Artix on a Framework 16. Window manager is DWM on top of an xlibre server.

Instant photography and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

I must not be the only person on this site with a similar sentiment. The obsession with and accessibility of instant digital photography has fundamentally changed the way in which people interact within the world. People no longer live experiences; they record them. The Western world and parts of Asia I believe have been the most heavily affected by this dreadful phenomenon. Billions of humans that now think it is totally normal to broadcast extremely intimate parts of their lives (mundane things too of course) to the greater population. Not to the mention the privacy ramifications that have arisen as a result. As Richard Stallman said, and I’m paraphrasing slightly here; “Cellphones would have been Stalans dream”. People now willingly upload their crimes onto social media platforms. That is really the level of information desensitisation that we are dealing with here. The worst part is that due to the rising levels of technological integration in our daily lives it Is getting harder and harder to simply opt out (at least for most “normal” people). And, on top of that, even if you DO choose to opt out, you will most likely STILL be integrated into the system via third parties one way or another; (Family/Work photographs, mandatory identification for more and more mundane issues, security cameras, random people filming for social media on the street, non libre software, e.t.c…) . At this point unless you are a proper hiki/recluse (an ideal that is sadly not feasible for most people) you are forced into the system. What was once an optional tool has slowly become, through gradual behavioural decay, an item that most would not even be able to conceive living without. Sort of digital Stockholm syndrome I guess. In terms of mitigation tactics I come up empty handed. I thought we could maybe generate some ideas in this thread regarding what could be done about this. Above all else, if you still possess a smartphone I would highly suggest that you really reflect on how necessary it is to you and consider getting rid of it. If you really need long distance communication, use mail or a “dumbphone”, if you love photography as an artform, use an actual camera and if you enjoy music while out of the house, simply download the songs and put them onto an mp3 player.

>>17
This thread is about a general trend, not about each person's individual smartphone usage. Regardless of how mindful you are about smartphone cameras, their proliferation has, indeed, had negative effects on society.
You're no different from those people who say "but I have a gun, and I've never shot anyone!" when people are talking about gun control and mass shootings.

>>21
People don't say that

>>22
people say things that are close enough to that (in america)

The real problem with photography is all the cameras are taking all the photons. Those photons could help the blind in africa, but no we give them to cameras!

One thing I struggle with in the realm of instant photo and video is grounding myself in reality. So much of visual media is unreal, that I find it difficult these days to really believe what I'm seeing. That's why I prefer a board like this one. It's easier for me to process information when I read it as opposed to looking at it.

These days, I find that it's important to limit myself to exposure of images in general. I had a dumb phone for a year, but got a smartphone so I could more easily text people and do basic administrative stuff. Even these days, I barely spend 30 minutes a day on it, if that.

Computer use is varied, but these days I try to only use my computer to update my website, read, message friends, and listen to music. This honestly takes up most of my day, but I try to keep things as low-key as I can regarding my computer usage.

hi everywanwan. i like to use the computer to create music but sometimes i use my casio sampler or one of my synthy-sizers to do the job. i like my snares wet and my pianos dry. i would say philip's spectre was pretty smart when he came up with noise wall (, but merzbow took it a step further when he invented the wall of sound (many speakers arranged into the shape of a wall)

https://vocaroo.com/14zEZiuw8Leh
this is my latest thing im working on. the section after the bass leaves and before the flute/trumpet come in sounds kinda mushy without bass on it, but i didn't like the patterns i had so this demo is necessarily scuffed.

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>>5
tyvm, you can find more of my work at ofreverence bandcamp. i suppose it might be time for me to release some more instrumentals, idk.

sunvox is cool as hell but ive had so much trouble using a lot of music software ever since i got extra comfortable in fruity loops. did you know it supports patching together VSTs, midi inputs, automation layers in a modular fashion? you can load effects in instrument slots and instruments in effect slots it's so insanely flexible i hate it because pretty much any other host software for music production feels slow now. personal weakness on my part, certainly.

"everything is a synth if you use it wrong enough"

necropost award but im starting to realize even as i learn more music theory and get better at composing and stuff i find myself liking trackers over regular DAWS
even as a lot of the music im making now is not the type of music that typically benefits from a tracker's benefits

>>10
tracking is just fun
I really do need to get back into regularly making music again. I mostly use Renoise and MilkyTracker. Renoise is so good. I bought it years and years ago (after more years of abusing the unlimited length demo) and it is one of the few pieces of software I am glad to have spent money on.

>>11
Renoise is one of the few like Premium software I'd is without a doubt worth its so goood i love it man and on the topic of trackers i was looking a video game composer's YouTube channel the other-day out of boredem and i found a video using "Osctet Tracker" I looked around a bit on youtube and I only found like 3 videos showing the software at all but it looks insane. from the site it says it's made specifically for unusual tuning and rhythms
https://jangle.dev/osctet/
https://youtu.be/eGQQ76XWp8o

they can run 64 bit code, bitch you only need two cores

really thinking about it GIMP is the main app that uses like large amounts of ram on my system most of my other work is much more CPU-based or rarely GPU based (like ffmpeg)

>>41
24 gb of what ram, ddr5?

>>43
ddr5 i think maybe ddr4 dosen't really matter to me i was using 32gb of ddr3 before a crappy gpu fried my entire system... i ended up starting to pay on/buy this pc before ram and storage prices completely jacked up (also it was a prebuilt) bout the only good thing my shitty wagie job did for me

I've never found ram speed too important for me as long as like not in single channel mode

I'm glad I'm not immediately impacted by the RAM crisis. Even now, my desktop with 16GB RAM has 6GB free with my usual shit open.

i know i'll make a discord alternative that copies all the bad design decisions that everyone was used to (closed source, service owned server, opaque "privacy", etc) and shill it to people because "we aren't requiring photo id to verify ages so we aren't evil!"
- 40 different groups of people

the internet is saved yet again.
;-;

>>7
not an insult to you or anything you wrote but IMO i'd rather be crucified upside-down than have an IRL place become a discord substitute. real life social aloofness (the black mirror in everyone's pocket) is already discord (and instagram) coded enough. i just want to be left alone for most of the day and be at peace so i can think

>>9
nta but what does that salad of words even mean? "social aloofness is discord coded"? am I talking with a human being? someone actually had a thought like this and it seemed coherent to them? I am beyond baffled.

>>1
this looks like a meme but it also looks kind of interesting
https://cabal (dot) codeberg (dot) page

>>10
xd sorry. i reread what i wrote and it doesnt make sense

>>8
Not the same anon, but my experience with xmpp is not that great too.
Every day I had connection issues, out of sync issues, etc.

I have never tried matrix, so I cannot comment on that one.

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There's probably certain expectations, subjective tastes, even objective measures that can decide what quality content. But what makes content quality? Is the name itself "content" reductive, resulting in a dumbing down effect? How about if we just 'make' things? Is quality something that is just, evident? There's a market even for bad content. So how do we define what makes a creation quality? Good, or bad?
I post this because of the recent Osaka video "The Truth about Denpachan" touches on this subject slightly.

a large part for me is the the intention behind it's creation if even the person behind it's creation only made it for the sake of getting "views" on the internet why is it worth the time of anyone else if it has no meaning behind it or no passion behind it then why should anyone else go out and find those things for it?

I’ve noticed there are threads with some good discussion which fizzle out into inane low quality posts made by 12 year old retard kids (see the NEETism and social class thread for what I’m talking about). In fact this is 90% of the site nowadays.

The issue with quality is that it can’t be entirely subjective. You have to have a shared yardstick, even if it’s somewhat hazy and not clearly defined, a social standard for what counts as good and bad quality that isn’t as narrow as the arbitrary standards of discord tyrants or so loose it’s akin to p3do heyuri.

>>2 agreed on intent. I can tell the difference between an honest take, and a video padded out to meet an ad quota. Talking in circles purposefully vs expressing some opinion with valid points and a human touch
>>3 i saw somewhere people mention the idea of boards that are designated for the purpose of exploring specific ideas, and having a space for the rants and low quality posts you mention. Im not sure how that works as im unfamiliar with the specifics of 4chan for example ( the site as a whole. I dont even know if thats the correct name ? )
Perhaps theres sense in that. I guess one could partition it off but i dont know the concequences of such, and how that would work

As a rounded off point to both the above, maybe theres some sense in having creators have their space, and a way to connect to those spaces. One blog run by one person is less prone to the low quality contributions of many. I guess also, topics of discussion that are more complex may attract low quality posts by just about anyone posting stuff to derail or change the subject. Reddit has the advantage of being able to hide responses behind a plus sign, so that the comment threads are more coherent, as much as reddit also has a problem with lowest common denominator effect such as "bro just google it" type rhetoric

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The recently active threads page is the direct cause of many "low quality posts". I don't think it should be removed, because it serves a filtering function. The problem is that it's very difficult to have conversations which bypass that filter. I've mentioned it before, abstractly but i'll be much more clear this time. If you want higher quality engagement a substantial number of people need to start using Sage on all posts in certian threads to keep them from hitting recently active. Bookmark threads you want to follow. and live with the likely slow post frequency.

(i don't expect anyone to actually do any of this. but it is an actionable solution)

>>5 since you posted this ive made a few sage posts. I didnt know it was a thing until i saw this

When 4chan got hacked, other imageboards were finally able to develop real userbases, since all the 4chud users were forced out of their comfort-shithole -- I miss that. I miss seeing 8moe's niche boards finally get a little bit of activity. It fucking sucks that the most active anonymous imageboard out there is the one with the least updates and features.

is 8moe 8chan dot moe?

4chan is unbelievably shit but only lives on due it's activity that it's gathered. other imageboards need to have a user interface better or similar to it to, because they'd need to be bearable to deal with at the minimum.

>>3
Most altchans have UIs that are very similar to 4chan's

4channers are retards. I don’t want them shitting up altchans.

4chan is just a big fedsite tbh

I hate doom scrolling. Successfully quit all my other doom scrolly sites fairly easily, but reddit is a monster. I was able to deal with the likes of twitter by just adding a block to the domain in hosts. but reddit is basically core internet infrastructure. I never notice until I try blocking it, but most days multiple times a day I will search something where the answer is clearly given on a reddit post, and essentially no where else (or rather it is probably elsewhere but that elsewhere has been buried in the search results by reddit's ease of access and brevity of answer)
once I'm back in reddit, it's too easy to start looking at other things. I hate it. I never feel better looking at reddit, it's just like lost time happening intermittently.

>>8
>>9
Just use the Singlefile extension or, if you're a little smarter, pywb as a proxy. The newest of the new soyjak party nusoiBABY is probably more tech literate than the average denpa/technology/ user.
If you just want to save text I would look into mercury/Mozilla's readability library

Block the domain in hosts and whenever a search result leads you to a reddit post, if you really want to see it, copy the link and manually change the url to eddrit or some other barely functional alternative frontend. Don't automate the process. With time you will come to realize that most reddit posts are quite useless as well and you wont find it worth it to open it since it requires extra manual labor and you will become better at finding the right information in those other buried places and piecing the answer together by yourself.

use this to grab lots of reddit.
stores conversations in markdown. links in auto redirecting html files. grabs most media files.
https://github.com/josephrcox/easy-reddit-downloader

>>13
replace downloader.js in ./lib with this to get comments for image/link posts : https://files.catbox.moe/z27t9o.js

Commit a petty crime and do like a month of jail time. That will clean up your head from internet addictions.

How many people actively use the fediverse?
Mastodon, Pleroma, Peertube, etc.

I was active during the early days of the technology, it was somewhat interesting back then, but not so much nowadays. The decision to just clone Web 2.0 SNS didn't really help their case. Very innovative stack with zero innovation being implemented software-wise.

imagine being jewish, joined net only to be scared away by the amount of antisemitic one-sided gaza propaganda propelled by moderators.
I've thought thats was only issue to some chans, but seems not.
they won't retweet there photografs of ruined jewish appartments after Iran striked Israel, or after Hezbola did.
some brainwashed western activits didn't learned history of Charlie Hebdo.

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I have been on and off of Mastodon many times. I think I just don't like "microblogging" and how slow the good instances are.

>>15
You made a post almost exactly like this before a few months ago

...I am trying to remember if I posted in this thread already. I would probably be >>6 if I did, since it matches my experience 100%.
and again, even if I ended up not making that post, it matches my experience 100% lol

I will also say that I really don't want to hang around what is culturally just Twitter but for the people who refuse to use Twitter/got banned from Twitter.

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Denpa as gateway relay to a better internet.
(Just coming with ideas. Don't judge)

>>3
i started using bitchute to watch conspiracy theorists uncensored but i checked and jalae has a surprisingly well kept archive of videos on there, im thinking im gonna start uploading there too from now on

>>3
n0 was right about something which is published on Youtube cannot be as punk as something independent due to the nature of the platform. As far as I can tell, the whole reason why denpas still upload to Youtube is due to storage space, which might be right, as no platform has as much storage capacity as Youtube. My point would be, however, that videos are just a bad format for information. Parsing them computationally is a pain in the ass and requires sophisticated AI tools owned by megacorpos to even work, unlike text which can be parsed with a Raspberry PI zero. Furthermore, the format is not very efficient in transporting information if you consider file sizes. The only reason why videos are so prevalent as opposed to text is because, even the more informative ones, are still more entertaining than reading text, at least for most people. There are even more advantages to text. For instance, it's very hard to implement DRM for text, plain text is as free as a format can get. Everybody can read it, copy it, share it, modify it, and do whatever they want with it. Editing a video requires an elaborate hardware and software setup and often you cannot just append or modify a video like you would with text. It's not just Youtube that's the problem, it's the format of videos as a whole.

>>5
Either use the Gopher/Gemini protocols or Vimeo.

>>5 Is technology there yet when it comes to captioning videos, and being copyable as basic text, without the cumbersome way youtube does it as 'moment', tagged with the times at which lines are said ? If its something possible, maybe one could use 'something' ( software or whatever I dunno ) to generated a text file of the script, so one can parse the information as a txt file ? I mean, I cant be the first one to have asked such a thing, and there are mad scientists of the web out there who have probably made a solution of some kind, which circumvents the need to be shackled to the way youtube does it. Otherwise, video is for me efficient enough for me to continue to watch, and I happen to enjoy it over reading a text file. But, I know people out there don't like youtube, so maybe if there exists a software to speech to text somehow, then there's not much need to be tethered to youtube, other than the storage space being like a free cloud and it being more likely to find an audience. But I'm just thinking out loud here, I haven't got the knowhow to be able to get around it, if one felt it desirable to do.

Some thoughts on the initial OP.... Potentially the way could be to contribute to some kind of self exploration, involving self improvement, while also enjoying the ride and not taking ourselves too seriously. Perhaps, in an environment where we realise our hand dealt, we can accept ourselves. And teach others, pass the torch down, in a growth mindset. I somehow believe that consuming things online, we can reach acceptance of ourselves and where we are in life. Novels are a good way to learn empathy, for example. Perhaps a similar mechanism can work with good, quality, posts and creations on the usual media sites. Perhaps our environment doesn't matter too much, because there exists in every community, the ususal subjects, and the roles that people adopt. So perhaps as a mini niche community, there's a to and fro which can occur, where the output has some kind of quality we can measure. I'm also thinking out loud, here.