i know i'll make a discord alternative that copies all the bad design decisions that everyone was used to (closed source, service owned server, opaque "privacy", etc) and shill it to people because "we aren't requiring photo id to verify ages so we aren't evil!"
- 40 different groups of people

the internet is saved yet again.
;-;

Worst part is, most of those Discord copycats don't even have the "good" features of Discord (functioning VC, functioning streaming) totally down, so everyone will just stay on Discord anyways.

And?

>>3
I'm tired of seeing videos about new discord alternatives being hyped up, looking inside seeing garbage, no mention of real alternatives (irc, xmpp, matrix, etc) and all the bots cheering. It's just exausting. I don't want to care enough to calcify this distain enough to make a blog post, let alone a video. So it was this or a journal entry and I chose this.

>>2
Even if a better "discord" (feature wise) existed, it still would be fighting uphill against discord's real killer feature, being the default place communities exist. Having the people people want to talk with. This fracturization doesn't hurt the discord monopoly, it just makes the real alternative space suffer by muddying the water.

>>1
it does require you to doxx your face or id or phone now, without letting "just access" to sfw rooms ?

>>4

(irc, xmpp, matrix, etc)

I.R.C. requires a bouncer for missed messages. X.M.P.P. is a meme. And Matrix is buggy as shit.

Deleted discord because of age verification farce. Only downfall is using reddit more, which doesn't require login to view, if you aren't bothered about 18+ content being viewable as a lurker. Youtube seems only to need it for 18+ videos too, and I've noticed it's not asking me for things that I'd expect it needing to. Perhaps they're onto me, gulp.

Wonder if sites default to under 18 status for you if you choose to not give ID. Eventually my guess is you'll need to do it before first accessing the site in general. So it'll be required to confirm your age either way. I hope not. But also, hope so, I want an excuse for a ride off this crazy train. IRL places will be my new discord, anxiety be damned.

Yeah, discord isn't worth giving ID to for me. Especially with it being a pain to archive naturally.

>>6

xmpp is a meme

how so?

>>7
not an insult to you or anything you wrote but IMO i'd rather be crucified upside-down than have an IRL place become a discord substitute. real life social aloofness (the black mirror in everyone's pocket) is already discord (and instagram) coded enough. i just want to be left alone for most of the day and be at peace so i can think

>>9
nta but what does that salad of words even mean? "social aloofness is discord coded"? am I talking with a human being? someone actually had a thought like this and it seemed coherent to them? I am beyond baffled.

>>1
this looks like a meme but it also looks kind of interesting
https://cabal (dot) codeberg (dot) page

>>10
xd sorry. i reread what i wrote and it doesnt make sense

>>8
Not the same anon, but my experience with xmpp is not that great too.
Every day I had connection issues, out of sync issues, etc.

I have never tried matrix, so I cannot comment on that one.

Some irc networks (newnet i think) have some sort of chat history function, The problem is only its quite niche and never used.