I can't believe that denpa chan has existed for this long and nobody's made an OS thread. What operating system(s) do you have currently installed? On what devices? What do you like about it? Are you a distro hopper or have you settled on The One?

i'm currently rocking fedora on a t480, and the fedora xfce spin on desktop. i don't have much of a reason for sticking to fedora, i just like DNF more than other package managers

I pretty much settled on arch like 4 years ago and haven't changed since, aside from a few experiments with BSD flavors on a random laptop. Not sure if it's "The One", but it just werks pretty much.

>>3
I do not trust BSD and its kin because the B stands for Berkeley and Berkeley is a city in KKKalifornia /s

50 years ago california wasn't as batshit as it is now tho.

- - -

for "linux-like" void is my favorite. i've tried alpine, artix, gentoo, fedora, ubuntu, arch, openbsd, Hurd, mint, knoppix, and probably 15 or so other random distros here and there.
artix comes in second place at this time, but void is really nice. runit is very easy to create and manage services with, no systemd kruft i don't pull in myself, quite minimal base install, and xbps is really nice (and lets you get yum or something if you really want that) with seperate "free" and "proprietary" repositories so by default you don't get non-free software in the repo for those that care about that.

anyway, I said it before and I guess I'll say it again. 9front is better than linux for everything except gaming and web shit. so for most it's a non-starter.
I've got 4 computers, a thinkpad yoga with 9front, a custom built from 2017 (some then good intel core supporting 8 dimms) running 9front, a nas running openmediavault (pretty sure it's an ubuntu fork?) because 9front can't run docker containers thus can't run plex server, and a 2022 custom built with a 4090 running windows 11 (i fucking hate it, but it's been necessary for mana channeling reasons) and WSL running Void for doing linux shit when needed (predominately I just use drawterm and pop into my 9front server for most of that)

PeppermintOS, for now

linux mint on both of my laptops. cinnamon on the newer one xfce on the older.

I've been thinking about dumping windows when windows 10 stops getting supported. what's a good os for gaming?

when windows 10 stops getting supported.

2032 is still a while away

>>8
When steamOS releases for PCs it maybe worth to check it out.

If you want something right now, check out bazzite OS.

>>4
I'm hardly an expert, but as far as I can tell there's no reason to use a BSD as a desktop OS unless you're just doing it for fun because you like tinkering, so you're not missing out really.

arch on pc and my t480. i really want to get back to fiddling with nixOS and actually trying to use it for a while but i havent yet

Been using arch for about 2 years, but have gotten fairly sick of it. Been thinking of switching to debian or selling my soul to redhat and switching to fedora for a just works experience.

I daily drive Arch, but I am considering moving to Guix.

guix seems cool but given that i cant find time or motivation to learn nixOS i dont think ill be trying guix any time soon

I convinced my nontechnical academic friend to switch to linux mint. I fear I have won. The year of the linux desktop is nigh.

I wanna try out Puppy Linux sometime

tomorrow i will install netbsd on something, i will let you know how it goes

Win11 Enterprise (NT Kernel) 😎

i use MacOs, its pretty good but like most modern software its bloated as hell, which is pretty annoying. but it gets the job done, that being surfing the web 24/7

windoze 11 edukayshun

win 10 on desktop for the sake of gaming compatibility.
archlinux (i know, i know) on laptop with only the bare necessities added onto it (mpv, cdparanoia). offline-only, never updated.

>>19

Ewww standard emojis

I just really hate those little yellow fuckers

>>23
go back to reddit

I use manjaro because it's just a better version of arch if you don't fall for the propaganda

>>24
go back to that rock you crawed under from

>>26
no :(

nixos i struggled and fiddled with it for a while but now i couldnt imagine a change if i tried

>>25
Honestly manjaro is the best way to try out arch to see if you even like it

use plan9 acme if u can program in c run on thinkpad t420 or raspberry pi 3b+
im starting to think maybe linux sucks dick, linux is made by people with air conditioning and fast internet connections. arch linux kills itself if you dont upgrade it for over a year, no more pacman for u retard all ur packages dependencies disappeared. im p goin to switch back to a debian distro

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Laptop_per_Child
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLPC_XO
crackers failed to setup linux mesh network. imagine a wireless mesh network that you can download packages from easily without a faulty connection to the internet. we need communal software distribution. i pay 1.6k a year for my internet connection. im being fucked.
https://archlinux.org/mirrorlist/all/
fuck mirrors most of them are in the global north.

>>30
It's true, if you don't have consistent internet access a rolling release distro probably isn't for you. However, many people do have consistent internet access. I am glad that there are different package managers and distros which suit various people's use-cases.

I recently started using NixOS and I really enjoy the way it manage it's packages and configs, feel way more organized and clean than a regular linux distro

>>32
nix seems interesting for creating dev enviroments for industry setting but i don't know why i wouldn't just use a traditional package manager for a personal use system. as long as the repo is maintained sensibly by fixing packages to all follow the distro's philosophy for packages (using sbin / bin / etc in a consistent way)

nix doesn't do what gentoo does.
gentoo can't do what nix does.

also nixos akin to arch, you can't leave unmaintained system for years without & then resume maintenance, it's sad nixos doesn't address or sole this problem.

ideally everyone should roll their own custom os/distro/repos.

NixOS sucks dick stop using that shit

Trying Debian Sid (Unstable) since Arch broke and I managed to fuck up the downgrading somehow.
First impressions is "It is actually good". The installer was easy to use and the setup went smooth.
And for people who miss the AUR there is https://mpr.makedeb.org/ which is inspired by Arch PKGBUILD and also has its own binary repos.
Maybe if these aspects of Debian were promoted more I would have tried it sooner.

I put tails os on a thumbstick, then I realized I do nothing that needs tails

>>37

Same here.

My internet is too slow for tor anyway

Using endeavour os now, and it's pretty good. (It is a dummy-friendly version of arch linux at least in my humble opinion)

OpenBSD is my operating system of choice due to it being superior to Linux in regards to security, minimalism, documentation, and stability. Unlike with OpenBSD, Linux developers keep reinventing the wheel with different components every couple years. An example being audio in Linux with Alsa, Pulseaudio, and Pipewire. Another example being WPA supplicant, IWD, NetworkManager, and Connman. Most Linux distributions now use SystemD as well which has over 1.3 million lines of code (yuck). OpenBSD is good for desktop use and in my opinion is more user friendly then "minimalistic" Linux distros like Void and Linux.

>>40
It can't run visual novels doe

I switched to NixOS one week ago, and it's been fun to learn and get working. I was too complacent using Debian, so I decided to try something new. I did a minimal install, and I'm also using Xmonad for the first time. Right now, I have Debian on my PC and NixOS on my T480. I'll fully make the switch later this week. I think this is the one.

win10 on a raider ge76 and graphene OS on a gpixel 7 pro.
i tried dynebolic for a bit but i need to give it another go when i have the time and energy. im quite comfortable using software i've grown accustomed to, especially fruity loops studio and foobar2000. i cant really imagine myself ever having a reason to leave these things behind or going through with having to deal with wine or using a VM for my favorite software. i imagine my next OS will be an LTSC version of windows.

>>43

win10 on a raider ge76
graphene OS on a gpixel 7 pro

I- I- I don't understand. Why not dualboot? Use windows only for the programs you really want/need.

>>42
nice. "An Hitchhiker guide to the NixOS".jpg

Let's say you have a binary app built for linux & distributed from http://downloadlinuxbinary.net/tarball.tar.gz. It's not a static binary, but dynamically linked to libA.so that is shipped in same tarball, and depend on a package libB.so.1.deb

how would you run such app on NixOS 25.05?

>>40
nice. does OpenBSD/You install, I mean compile, packages from sources by default?

why has everyone been switching to nixOS?

I use 9front, BTW

What operating system(s) do you have currently installed?

Gentoo on my desktop, Arch on my laptop, Debian on servers

What do you like about it?

Portage is unironically the only good package manager in existence, including any language/distro package managers and any other ports system. Having a portage overlay on your Github solves all problems with obscure packages, much more so than the AUR, which is a pity excuse for not building a better package manager than pacman. The AUR is centralized, requires accounts, and has a much more package building system, which will probably break on you if you look at it the wrong way, unlike Portage, which stands strong.

The option for a custom kernel is also neat. The amount of needless packages in normal distros like Debian or Arch is unacceptable for me and I want my kernel to be tailored for my purposes. Even on my Arch machine I use a custom kernel, since the default one includes so much things I don't need and still lacks options I want.

Are you a distro hopper or have you settled on The One?

I'm considering using ExHerbo, but Gentoo sufficies for my purposes, so I'm content with my OS. Not so much with Arch on my laptop, but it works, hence I'm not changing it.

Windows 10 is coming to an end. I need to replace it as my OS. I don't know which one to choose.

>>49
use a debian based distro if you don't care about updating
use a arch based distro if you want new shit
use a bsd based distro because fuck linux
if you have any extra computers install 9front on one of them

>>50
I went with ghostbsd because I wanted to be spethial

Windows 11. I’m stupid and it’s simple! Tried Linux briefly though and there were upsides for me personally. I’m sure I will be back someday…

>>52
Same. Linux just doesn't run the software I need for work and the FOSS equivalent is a trash fire.

>>53
Lol wagie

>>54
Arch toddler detected
*Pulseaudio Bassboosted Phonk Theme*

90 IQ, >20 BMI retard spent his whole Adderall prescription to install bloated arch systemd loonix to feel pseudo, always makes me laugh

https://github.com/sabotage-linux/sabotage

>>55
guy who thinks the only loonix distro is the trash fire known as arch

arch is literally fine

"could it be that there is variation in human intelligence?"

macOS is actually great, offering a solid Unix base with a polished GUI. The Terminal works out of the box, most Linux tools run natively, and Homebrew handles everything— brew install everything. Little Snitch gives you full control over network traffic and yabai brings tiling WM behavior straight to macOS. Apple Silicon is insanely efficient, you can push heavy apps like Ableton or ZBrush without any thermal drama. It’s one of the few platforms where you can go full dev mode and run pro-grade creative software without compromise.
If you’re feeling bold, you can even sudo nvram boot-args="rootless=0" and nuke macOS telemetry

/top tier Linux:

KISS Linux – Created by the same guy who did Neofetch and the Pure Bash Bible. It’s literally all about keeping things barebones: no bloat, no systemd, just the essentials. (This distro’s so light you can rm -rf / and still be good, probably.) The creator’s now farming, but the distro still alive if you want a minimal Linux setup.

SFS (Zen LFS) - Made by a TempleOS user. Pure nirvana.
echo "The universe is infinite; let’s compile peace" | tee /dev/serenity

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>>60
sfs? slackware from scratch? suckless from scratch? no results for "zen LFS" any links?

>>61
Stinky linoox user interjecting for a minute.

I suppose that "Zen LFS" means: "Linux From Scratch using the community maintained 'Zen' fork of the linux kernel". That being said I too have never heard of a distro called SFS. Very unsearchable name since SFS linux will always prompt the search engine to search for Squash-Filesystem. Modern search engines are so useless man.

Why does fedora have to be called that ...

hopefully i am not a complete idiot this time

>>63
if you really are interested in the reason : www redhat com en about brand standards history

i think the org was specifically making fun of the "people" who used the "free community redhat version". this is when I stopped using redhat stuff at all, I had previously purchased actual cd distribution versions of redhat, and was insulted by how they managed the "community free version" and never downloaded fedora. yes that means I hated the redhat org \before\ systemd. they were already planning their systematic destruction of linux back in like 2005 at the latest (who knows how much further back the seeds of evil go tho.)
but maybe it was just because their logo by that time was film-noiry fedora wearing detective vibe?

>>60
...if only world had yabai 15 years ago

>>64
black, grey, white, red (& the optional bioluminiscent one)

Linux balkanization might have been a mistake

i used to use arch w i3, then i broke the install via keyboard shenanigans and switched to popos. got a new laptop and installed arch and hyprland and im considering installing sway because i'm too used to tiling wms but also not smart enough to get used to hyprland completely

>>67
this all took place over ~3 years, and i wanna stick with arch cause i know more now than i knew back when i broke it

Gentoo, i use... gentoo.

I just use FreeBSD and Win for win shit stuff

>>44
thank you for your concern.

i currently use WSL on my primary machine but i don't have the wherewithal to spend time earning the proficiency in a *nix environment that i already have in windows.
also, im in school and my courses require me to learn pro tools, which im looking forward to learning despite the obviously horrendous business model it runs on. i have been using ubuntu with WSL for whenever i want to do linux stuff.

my cheap laptop has a botched devian install on it that i intend to replace with dyne:bolic, chosen for the creative software it comes with and the license it's built around.

i may begin primarily using linux sometime after my degree, but i also may drop out before then. maybe something i can't anticipate will happen. i'll worry about all that once i get to it.

I have been dual running windows | void and been spending 99.8% of the time in void. i feel like i should bite the bullet and format the disk and surrender the diskspace on the nvme windows lives on to the void. but im scrd. ;-; what if in that very moment i realize that the .2% is just something that hasn't come up in a while and is actually super important? what if the backup i made of the C drive is incomplete? what if i completely fuck up the transfer and lose both installs and my backups and also a meteor crashing into my house killing my grid but leaving me alive? what if anime isn't real?!

i need random validation from people who probably don't even exist so i can have some since of absolution from my responsibility for the decision!!!!
anyway. brb formating my drive.

well now that that's done, i have experienced again the awe-inspiring speed transition from slow af disk drive (over usb 3 to make matters worse) to nvme ssd. it's so much faster it screws with my brain.

Debian with i3

I recently encountered a BSD evangelist on a TF2 server. Interesting guy.

>>75
can you even play tf2 on the BSDs?

>>76
I've seen a few videos of it running under freebsd via linuxulator though that was before the 64bit and vulkan update

Once I went BSD I never went back. BSD is the best OS even if the devs are gays.

sell me on bsd fam. i feel like if i'm willing to give up the convinience that linux kernel + runit init + xbps provides and go as far as bsd then there's no reason to not throw away the washing basin along with the baby and bathwater and be left with the zen minimalism of templeos and or plan9.

>>79
Cuck license. That's all you need to know.

>>80
i don't know if bsd is the cuck licence or if linux is. also i don't give a shit about random postlatin magic words.

>>81
nta. People say the bsd license is a cuck license because it let's people take your code and not give any contributions back, while the gpl requires they make any modifications public. I'm both cases they can use the software however they want, the only difference is if they're required to open source any changes they make to it.

>>79
bsd's ecosystem and idioms aren't constantly changing, as >>40 points out. the documentation is far superior to linux's, especially openbsd, the quality of their manpages will make you cum. compiling and installing software is usually easier, as you don't have the issue of a billion distro fragmentation, and ports/packages are better maintained.

>>82
but i have 9front. and i like void linux because it is easy, minimal (for linux) I don't have to deal with idioms changing because i stick with the same things and don't have to pull shit i don't want. pottering? who's that? doesn't exist. packages being maintained is /fine/ but also, when the packages i have work why do i care about updating them? so some macos using linux dev's patches can be installed? nah. then when i want to cream my pants with true bliss i run drawterm and zencode in c on 9front.

idunno. i last tried openbsd like 10 years ago and found the whole system to be like the devs of emacs painted a picture of unix. my text editor of choice on linux is unmodified vi. not vim, not nvim, and certianly not emacs.

>>80
licenses are meant for the oppressive upper class of the industry in the same vain as copyright, and all working programmer-level licenses (and copyright) are meaningless in practice. The closest to a "practical" license is Trilema's known faux-license:
I. You do not have, nor can you ever acquire the right to use, copy or distribute this software ;

II. Should you use this software for any purpose, or copy and distribute it, to anyone or in any manner, you are breaking the laws of whatever soi-disant "sovereign jurisdiction" you may be deemed to be located within, and you promise to continue doing so in the indefinite future.

Unless you are of that upper class in the industry, moral handwringing over the implied specifics of licenses that have no practical application for people with souls is pointless.

I don't give a shit about any of this. I just want to watch YouTube videos.

>>85
The purpose of the Sage option is to be able to criticize a thread without bumping it, making it more likely to die on its own. If you don't like a thread but feel the need to reply to it somehow, use Sage.

also, you're cattle and you will become obese from algo slop lmao

A Windows 7 on air-gapped ThinkPad is all you need
Chimera Linux is the only true Linux

GuixSD.

I'm currently using fedora linux with gnome, but I'm thinking of switching to kde plasma.

kde plasma is fairly nice if you like windows7ish style. I've been using it because i never understood the tiling window work flows, and just wanted something that works. gnome is too macy to my tastes. the good news is you don't have to fully switch, since you can almost certianlly just install kde plasma then switch at your login. altho you may need to switch your login service if gdm doesn't let you pick different ones (sddm and lightdm both let you switch for sure)

>>87
Used that for a while. Probably what I'd use if I wanted a "non-functional" Linux distribution
>>88
It's Guix System now, the Guix package manager is already a "Guix System Distribution" because it includes the Guix System command. I'm on Nix now(because my Atheros wifi-card hasn't arrived yet) I like Guix more but wish they just had a substitute for the mainline Linux-kernel on the Nonguix repo , so you wouldn't have to compile it on 90% of hardware configurations.
Learning both is useful since Guix has some outdated packages and Nix has the largest(though largely automated) repo.
>>89
>>90
I'm using GNOME until I'm comfortable with EXWM. Most of the other Desktop Environments don't contain basic stuff like Night Light and easily togglable Dark Mode(or better yet by sunset/sunrise) or Hover Click. KDE has too many options if I'd want to set up all that or use a more "minimal" DE and install a bunch of external software, I'd just configure a Window Manager/Compositor setup. EXWM is easier to move to, if you're already using Eemacs and have Emacs packages for doing some of that.

After using arch for years and messing with a bunch of different WMs I finally settled down and started using fedora workstation with gnome as my desktop environment, And almost everything works just how i want it to. I'm finally happy with my OS of choice.

>>92
total red hat cultural domination

>>47
fuck, okay already year passed but I replay answer, my conclusion - the best operating system for a laptop in principle, everything twisted on C language + thanks to anon who suggested to me Nyxt browser (LISP)

Harvest good this year

>>92
It's been a short while and fedora has been the best linux experience I've had. Everything just werks even though setting up rpm fusion is kinda annoying. Otherwise it's basically perfect.

Just use arch bro

Linux users think they are cool hackers but really they are just gay

I love being gay and safe from spyware

Linux won’t save you

>>99
I tend to agree, thanks to the corporate involvment in linux development it's pretty hard to see any kind of bright future for the platform, and it may already be compromised beyond recovery, but I do tend to feel that the worst of the bullshit is in userspace rather than in the kernel at the moment. Insidentally this is also why posix generally won't save you, and why posix emulation layers in other systems is a bad idea.

linux will become more convinient and more people will use it, but those aren't useful metrics.

All of this is rather pointless discussion. What /will/ save us? windows 95/98? OS/2 ? BeOS? the BSDs? templeOS?
Or do we need to go the osakaOS route and make a denpaOS?