How many people here are Trans?
I'm just curious as I'm Trans-Fem

By some people's definition. Amab enby not on hormones and wearing mostly women's clothes going by label (though the majority of that scans more as gay/gnc than actively fem)

>>2
You're valid, I probably should have used a more general term

I am a cis male who wants to be a loli.

I'm transfem

>>4
same

is non-binary considered trans...??

>>7
Depends person to person for themselves really. Like I'd say I'm agender, but wouldn't consider myself under the trans umbrella, but I doubt that's a universal stance.

There was a point in my youth when I was like, "being a guy is great" and I stopped seriously thinking about not wanting to be one.

so I am cisgender

I'm not transgender but I also do not feel very strongly identified with the idea of being male. Not that I feel not-male, just sort of like a neutral being. At the same time the idea of calling oneself 'non-binary' just feels like painful attention seeking.

>>10
just don't call yourself anything. Leave data fields empty. When pressed, tell people to stop being weird. Ask them why they care so much. Just don't play, because it's fundamentally not your problem. They're the ones forcing attention. They're the ones shining the spotlight. Being victimized by attention is not the same as seeking it, and at the cost of bearing a little more of it, you can make that clear by holding up the mirror. Doing so protects others from the spotlight. Just keep insisting that you just want to grill and that they're being weird, rude and fascist for asking.

i wouldnt call myself non binary EVER it just feels so forced, yet i also feel like i am not really one gender or then other. When asked i just tell people what i find attractive, that being the essense of femininity as we know it at least

Sorry but I think none of this gender stuff is worth thinking about, and gender dysphoria should be treated with cognitive behavioural therapy and SSRIs.

i'm a male. i don't believe in gender. i see the concept as a small setback on the road towards a humanity free of any ideas of identity. when the question "who are you?" is posed, many others arise. why should it matter? why should one need to define one's being? is there anything of substance to define, or is there nothing in there but the pipes and pumps that carry our blood and shit? what is there to gain from defining one's identity? have you ever been asked to define your self? whenever i've been asked, i've always been stumped on what to say. what is there to say? i've got plenty of other unknowables to worry about...

If I was worse at logic I'd believe myself to be a trans lesbian.
As it stands, though, I'm just a man who kinda wants to be female.

i consider myself agender, and i am also a staunch gender abolitionist. gender has done nothing but perpetuate cycles of abuse and we should be rid of it. i typically present masculine, less by choice and more by social acceptability and convenience

>>15
logic should not make you worse at things. How does "being good at logic" (lmao) cause you to fail at achieving what you yourself recognize as your desire. That is a rather silly and horribly ovate statement to make

trans woman reporting in ~ヾ(・ω・) i think a lot of otaku spaces end up with a lot of trans ppl and people who are about to become trans lmao

>>17
Because I realise that calling myself a woman in no way helps me in achieving my desire. I would much rather be an afab who likes to be called by male pronouns than a "trans woman", in fact, being an afab who likes to be referred by male pronouns wouldn't be any worse than being a cis woman.
I also have no desire to follow gender norms or be seen as female by society.
All I want is to be sexually attracted to myself. Although it wouldn't completely satisfy me, stuff like HRT could help, but I don't think it would be enough to make a real difference since my face is already too masculine, and also I don't want to have a lower libido. HRT also happens to be completely unrelated to what I call myself.
If you're wondering why I called myself a man, well, I think it's useful for there to be casual words to refer to someone's sex, so I'd like it if the words man and women kept referring to people's sex rather than being completely useless words that have no meaning other than "someone who likes being called by this word". I referred to myself as a man because me being male is important context when I say I want to be female (being a female who wants to be female wouldn't really be a problem).

i'm just a guy but /lgbt/ is a board i often go to see funny stuff and sometimes to feel like i'm getting intellectually mogged by trans women

might be transfem

I wish I were Funami Yui.

>>16
Ain't that the motherfuckin' truth, eh.

>>22
i wish i were hirasawa yui

How many penes y'all got?

I think Homo Sapiens are evolving species and have right to evolve new genders.
We live through evolutionary battle between different DNA groups, for survival of genders. So it is up to your personal responsibility whether non-gender-conforming DNA survives. And there is more to it than pure DNA, there is a philosophy, science. Some dared to call it religion.

There are many life forms on Earth with multiple genders & no genders.

I find that sometimes people say “gender” when they're really just talking about personality. The attributes and behaviours they use to define it often only reinforce sexist gender stereotypes.

>>27
I mean, genders are archetypes. Quite explicitly, though of course shifting ones. it's a clustered set of behaviours, aesthetics and affects meant to invoke group membership and thus the assumption of some of those remaining attributes not directly demonstrated. It's the same as "jock", though more culturally powerful. some parts are personality, but which bits you possess is less significant than which bits you foreground in order to engage in this signalling. Of course that breeds stereotypes. That's hardly avoidable without dismantling the whole framework of vying for tribal belonging. Good luck trying to get pack-critters to stop being pack-critters, though i suppose n1x has ideas on that front

gender comes from the french "genre" which literally just means "type. kind"

genders are archetypes

No. I think it's dehumanizing to categorize people like this. People are unique individuals, and when you categorize and label and put them into easy boxes, you stop seeing them that way.

It's the same as "jock"

This is what I mean, when you define a person so superficially, you stop seeing them as an individual human being. I get the feeling that since you're posting here, the “jock” was the “other” in your life, but it applies in reverse too.

bits you foreground in order to engage in this signalling

My point was these charades are often regressive sexist things that feminism made progress against last century. It's easy to see why some people are offended by the idea that wearing make-up and a dress means one should now be treated differently. Those things aren't what define a woman, and a woman isn't less of a woman for not doing those things.

Good luck trying to get pack-critters to stop being pack-critters

With respect, that wasn't my point at all.

>>30 Je sais.

>>28
Yeah I've done some thinking since I posted this thread, I agree with this person to an extent.
The whole reason I identify as Transfemme (idk what spelling to use i don't care that much) is because of various "feminine" traits that I possess and a strong identification with them, along with the whole dysphoria stuff.
That being said I don't really see gender as a class that you are locked into, but more so like a build that you kind of cobble together for yourself.
Like sure you're a Mage but you can still be really good with a long-sword and heavy armor, but then people may just create the Battle Mage subclass to identify you. Blah blah blah Deleuze and somthingabout expanding previously established schemas

>>31
I think you misunderstood what I was saying. It's not that anyone is less of a woman by not playing into these stereotypes. Same for any such cluster. The kind way to look at it is to make the wanting-for-group-inclusion and the various second order effects you get out of that the sole criterion. That's where you get self-id and I think that self-id is the correct route to go. Most of the population doesn't operate by self-id though, and the most surefire way to make them acknowledge your identity is to play into the stereotypes and the stereotypes are regressive because... Well you know why. What the stereotype is shifts significantly over time, but it doesn't lag behind the women's movement at every step since the cutting edge is never the accepted paradigm. I don't disagree that this is highly defect-y. It actively worsens the ratchet for everyone else, but I'm also not in the business of telling desperate people to suck it up and put themselves last. People defect constantly, and while that *is* terrible, singling transfems out for it is odd

>>31
i call myself a woman because it makes me feel nice :3 i think its fun to get into the "why" sometimes but you gotta remember that ppl do what makes them happy, especially when that happiness comes from the abstract. does watching anime make you happy? if you post here im like 90% certain it does. we can get into the minutia of why anime is good or bad or inherently regressive or whatever but most people literally dont care about that and want to experience pleasure. hedonism is in vogue rn <3

however, im not implying that being trans ignores deeper analysis of one's inner self. the whole reason we're like this is because we've been through this whole song and dance in our head for literally our whole lives. literally no trans person's concept of gender begins and ends with "women wear dresses and makeup". its just an easy shorthand to express femininity. when you know dozens of trans women its easy to see that the large majority of us express our femininity similarly to cis women. there's spectrum of expression from tomboy to high femme, for both trans and cis women

anyways, if you want to embrace equality among sexes and dont want to define people by broad categories, shouldnt we all switch to they/them pronouns and abolish gender outright? the fact that a sex is assigned to us places us into a broad category that simplifies our personhood. it seems silly to me to argue against trans people redefining the boxes that we're placed into

holy brainrot

I indentify as an apache attack helicopter xD

I should warn the rest of you that, alot like furries, if you make trannies feel welcome, they'll eventually congregate, entrench themselves, and begin to start directing the culture of the website, starting drama, making things very tranny-centric and generally un-comfy, and push out anyone who isn't as fucked in the head as they are with a constant purity spiral. Once they take moderation positions it's game over and they can just directly delete anything they don't like.

>>37
k
but, imagine if you will, the culture was originated from dregs of the super protrans side of the otaku gutter in the first place.
put on the programmer socks, have some soykaf, play some bass, and watch some glitterpop yuri slice of life sis.

>>37
You are the one making this things un-comfy dude.
I'm also guessing that you've had one or maybe two bad experiences with the landscape of a community changing for the worst, which sucks I'm sorry.
However the use of the word "Tranny" repeatedly and the comment about moderation makes me think that you are just a person that gets upset when they can't be vitriolic/hateful towards people you don't like.
Most online communities are public, it takes all sorts to make and world.
Making a certain group of people in a PUBLIC space unwelcome is one of the most uncomfy things you can possibly do.

>>37
are there any mods other than n0 lol? in any case not all trans are like that. and the anti-trans sites are just as annoying echo chambers imo. i have been kicked out of right wing talking places for having the wrong opinion. its all the same fucked in the head retardation.

>>29
hs

>>37
you need to go back

>>33
I guess it wasn't to a point you made yourself, I was talking more generally based on my observations. I find it interesting when that accusation is made towards TERFs for example.

The kind way to look at it is to make ... the sole criterion

That's taking a very superficial view of people again. (Besides the point I was making about general social acceptance, on a personal level I really don't respect people who need validation from others to exist.)

I think that self-id is the correct route to go

I think people should be able to live however they like and do what makes them happy, but I was talking about when males perform “feminine” traits then expect society to treat them as female, and have a tantrum when they're misgendered or whatever. I don't mind what an individual wants to call themselves, but I sympathise with women who feel weird about males who decided that they feel female, so they'll do "female things" (a sexist idea) so now they deserve to use women's spaces.

the most surefire way to make them acknowledge your identity is to play into the stereotypes

The idea of "making them acknowledge your identity" is questionable, and you reinforce my point about defining femininity through superficial regressive behaviours. Women don't need to do those things to be women, no matter what the stereotype is of the time, regardless of cutting edges or accepted paradigms. Personally I find the ones that do engage in that regressive patriarchal shit to be pretty sad, but when males do it it has an extra layer of seediness.

singling transfems out for it is odd

I'm not singling anyone out, it's just the thread topic.

>>34 I don't want to be rude but I think you have brain damage.

i have had difficulty understanding the role/value of identity labels similarly to other anons here. but recently i realized that one way or another, i wanted to be a girl. so i'm transfem.

Personally I don't like troons because most of them are annoying, vapid attention whores. You can see it in the way they type. What's more, most of the time they're poisoned by toxic positivity, which is not comfy at all. The comparison with furfags is accurate too. I think 37-san is right and sane

legos are bad because they are sharp and pointy and always manuvering to be under my bare foot when im walking. they want to cause pain and suffering, you can see it in their sharp 90 degree sides and hard plastic bodies.

meanwhile most legos in a box under the bed.

literally why would you ever care about what other people do with their bodies. its such an annoying "debate"

>>45
what does an attention whore look like in your view? and how does that apply to most trans people in your view? i think i know what you're talking about but would appreciate a more specific explanation as to what you mean by this.

This thread is radioactive

>>43
Crystal Cafe is over that way

>>50
this

>>47
I wouldn't care one bit if they weren't forcing me to indulge in their delusions

>>20
tfw no smart trans woman gf

>>37
You're absolutely correct and the people pretending you aren't are the ones you're talking about

>>52
You have never even met trans people

fatty acid omegax3 trolls ITT induced 🔥

I'm an amab enby on E

trans women are so fucking hot i can't handle it

>>57
cute

>>57 arab envy?

99% the one percent is osaka and n0

>>61
That pretty much sums it up

stop necroing this cursed ass thread, its so hostile and uncomfy in these replies

>>61
I consider them honorary trans cuz they have both dated trans women

N0thanky0u is a repressor.

>>65
the meme that never dies

>>65 please don't talk it into reality. that would suck...

>>67
I don't think it works like that lmao

Im transgender I guess I don't know I don't really talk much about it online

>>69
Least obvious fed

>>70
what did they (69) posted? it's removed by mod.
also, idk bout more trans number than 69.

Do trannoids get roid rage from all the hormones they take?

>>72
No hormones usually don't cause rage,estrogen usually makes you feel things more deeply and testosterone can having a dulling effect.Roid rage happens when dosing high above normal unenhanced ranges.

bbc

>>71
It was just some edgy kiddo sending gore and spamming shi last night

im trans. not reading this thread tho lmao

>>76
How do you send gore on a textboard?

>>78
we on the internet a url

I'm also trans. I am kind of "stealth" online, though. I usually only reveal my transness when I'm posting under an Anonymous name. Being trans has definitely informed my experience in a way I'd like to discuss, but transphobia just isn't nice to deal with, so I don't bring it up much.

>>80
The sad thing about the internet is it doesn't allow for actual dialogue. Everyone has a "my way or the highway" attitude. It would be nice to ask trans people random shit but everyone takes offense. They spit on you and attack you violently and the same for transphobes.

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I’ve never understood why random frat boys and nerds on the internet are so enraged by trans. There’s lots of things I don’t like about trannos, but why the rage? “Noooo you can’t change sex kuz chromosomes and shit” and this is coming from people who jerk it to the most degenerate pr0n and live like dogs. So like it’s not as if these people are paragons of virtue or defenders of the Tao of Heaven or something. Like I can understand why Pastor Smith doesn’t like trans. In his mind it’s simple, “god said this is wrong.” Fair enough. But what’s some random netcrawling degenerate, atheist, lolbert got against them? It’s not like those subhumans actually value anything. What are they out to defend?

>>83

access forum filled with people who are excluded from normie society
rage against people who dont properly fit into society

why

>>83
This. One of the things I dislike the most about NEET/hikki/vhanner spaces is the amount of delusional troons you have to deal with, how militant, annoying and loud and retarded they are.

>>86

militant, annoying and loud and retarded they are.

The irony

>>87
No irony whatsoever. This was a non-subject before all the woke nonsense became really prevalent online and troons started actively disrupting and astroturfing communities. I witnessed it happen to /r9k/ and many other spaces. Of course there would be a reaction to this.

>>86
As if the anti-troons are any less militant, less loud, and less annoying and retarded. You remind me of Jews.

>>88
this >>89 is what 87 meant by "irony". despite what zoomers think, "irony" isnt just 'saying something as a joke'

>>86
I wonder why people marginalized by society and oftentimes attracted to nerd culture would congregate in channer spaces. FFS, this is like complaining about autists in your precious imageboards.

since you retards can't behave i will lock this thread. Go have chuds vs trans argument that goes nowhere for the 10 millionth time somewhere else.